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The Betrayal: The Cult of Trump turns on Chelsea Manning

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posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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If I lived in Maryland I would proudly vote for Manning.




posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: Abysha



I have no problem with choices you've made. And religion is a bunch of BS. What I do feel sorry for you about is deluding yourself in to believing a man can become a women. You cant no matter how you look at it you can never truly be a women. And I feel sorry for you not accepting who you are and setting an unattainable goal. Women have the unique perspective brought on by motherhood. They are biologically driven to want kids they would have to be considering the pain involved.

I just don't think its healthy to try to change yourself when instead you should accept who you are. There is people with illusions who think there Jesus or a baby even some a cat or dog. It isn't healthy trying to placate these dillusions. I hope some day you'll be happy with who you are and stop pretending to be someone else. Ive seen 1st hand how dangerous it is when a person isn't happy with who they are.



posted on Jan, 20 2018 @ 10:04 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Abysha

Women have the unique perspective brought on by motherhood.


so uhhhhh what happens to a cis woman who is born or becomes infertile, or who gets ovarian cancer or decides for any of a billion valid reasons that she can't have or doesn't want children? she's just straight up not a woman because she lacks that "unique perspective" ??
not sure if you realise it but you've literally just said that all women are, their only value, is as walking wombs.
that's pretty messed up, dude. might wanna rethink your position a little.



Ive seen 1st hand how dangerous it is when a person isn't happy with who they are.


thanx for the faux pity party, but i'll go you one better; i've BEEN 1st hand how dangerous it is when a person isn't happy with who they are.
and then i got medical treatment, and i healed, and since then my life has been totally incredible! ...except when i go on the internet, where people are constantly telling me that i'm miserable and confused and need help.

here's a thought; maybe when you have two people from a minority you have no experience of telling you that your assertions about them are dead wrong... maybe that's not the time to double down on those original assertions?
maaaaybe it's time to consider that you're possibly not in possession of all the unbiased facts?
maybe, just maybe people know about their own lives, and talking over them and trying to tell them how their own lives work comes across as nothing but rude and ignorant?
jeeze i don't wanna push it too far, but have you thought about listening to people?
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posted on Jan, 21 2018 @ 01:25 AM
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I'm glad your happy but unfortunately it isn't that way for everyone. My brother inlaw shot himself after receiving surgery. And its very common but people like you don't want to admit there is a problem. The problem is simple if your unhappy about who you are no surgery will change that. Your simply applying a band aid.

A 2011 study at the Karolinska Institute in Sweden produced the most illuminating results yet regarding the transgendered, evidence that should give advocates pause. The long-term study—up to 30 years—followed 324 people who had sex-reassignment surgery. The study revealed that beginning about 10 years after having the surgery, the transgendered began to experience increasing mental difficulties. Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population. This disturbing result has as yet no explanation but probably reflects the growing sense of isolation reported by the aging transgendered after surgery. The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription.
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posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 06:12 PM
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I think Manning chose the wrong party to run for.




posted on Jan, 27 2018 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Wait I thought Assange works for Russians. U can't have it both ways.



posted on Jan, 28 2018 @ 04:25 AM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

speaking of learning history, is that one of those things where the two parties essentially switched sides at some point, thus kinda nullifying the point you think you're making?
i mean i'm not even american and i know that's a thing so uhhh



posted on Jan, 28 2018 @ 04:50 AM
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I think Manning chose the wrong party to run for.


I love it how you speak as if the Republican party is faultless. How far up the two party paradigm are you Pixel? Does it stink?

Speaking of which... the Democratic Party of the 19th and much of the 20th centuries were politically conservative until the late 60s following the civil rights movement. They were anti-tariff pro States rights. Reagan was a proud card carrying Democrat before he switched in the 60s.



posted on Jan, 28 2018 @ 05:06 PM
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Reagan was a proud card carrying Democrat before he switched in the 60s.


Reagan realized the democrats supported killing unborn children and switched. Reagan supported women rights more than the feminists, all the way to inception of life.
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posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 03:06 AM
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Reagan realized the democrats supported killing unborn children and switched. Reagan supported women rights


Wait you're saying he supported women's rights, yet opposed their rights to their own bodies? Those two statements contradict one another.

Also with regards to the 1973 Supreme Court decision, Roe v. Wade, legalized abortion by a 7-2 vote. Six of the seven justices in the majority were Republican appointees.

Reagan also crossed over into the GOP in 1962 ; more than 10 years prior to Roe V Wade.

Either you don't know your history or you're listening to rightwing tripe. I think the latter is more likely.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 03:24 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian


Wait you're saying he supported women's rights, yet opposed their rights to their own bodies?


Last I checked, reagan supported rape laws.

As libertarians say, your right to swing your fists where you please ends at my nose. Just curious, when does the development of the nose occur? Five weeks?



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 03:47 AM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Reagan did not support a persons right to murder.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 05:01 AM
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a reply to: thepixelpusher

Didn't you claim Reagan left the Democratic Party become of abortion?

My post again.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 05:15 AM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Theprodicalson
Deep down though I bet a good portion of society will never view you as a "real" women.
Most heterosexual men wont date a trans women, which says something.



But a whole lot of hetero men do date trans women. And there's not a whole lot of women like us so demand is a bit overwhelming. Just look at the average American man's porn search history, lol.



The cucks maybe but not the boomers.

The ave american male searches asian porn. FYI.

Not fat saggy white women. Know what I mean?




posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: continuousThunder
a reply to: thepixelpusher

speaking of learning history, is that one of those things where the two parties essentially switched sides at some point, thus kinda nullifying the point you think you're making?
i mean i'm not even american and i know that's a thing so uhhh



Yeah happens all the time.

Like when the royals switched with the peasants.





posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 08:16 AM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Theprodicalson
Deep down though I bet a good portion of society will never view you as a "real" women.
Most heterosexual men wont date a trans women, which says something.



But a whole lot of hetero men do date trans women. And there's not a whole lot of women like us so demand is a bit overwhelming. Just look at the average American man's porn search history, lol.



The cucks maybe but not the boomers.

The ave american male searches asian porn. FYI.

Not fat saggy white women. Know what I mean?



Yes, the boomers. You'd be surprised. Especially the out-of-town ones seeking "sugar baby" weekly/monthly arrangements.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: thepixelpusher
I think Manning chose the wrong party to run for.



It would be disingenuous of you to site that misleading image without explaining that the Republican's of yore (the ones who supported/passed the legislation linked in the image) were at that time much more akin to liberals of today than vice versa. The word 'Republican' has been around a long time but the meaning and party policies have shifted drastically since its inception (see Dixie Democrats for example). If one was to put in the due diligence to educate themselves on the various prerogatives of early Democrat/Republicanism one would notice a curious shift from the beginning to now.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: Theprodicalson
Deep down though I bet a good portion of society will never view you as a "real" women.
Most heterosexual men wont date a trans women, which says something.



But a whole lot of hetero men do date trans women. And there's not a whole lot of women like us so demand is a bit overwhelming. Just look at the average American man's porn search history, lol.



The cucks maybe but not the boomers.

The ave american male searches asian porn. FYI.

Not fat saggy white women. Know what I mean?



Who are you referring to as "cucks"lol? Are you saying it's a generational thing or just men who date Trans women in general? It's funny that you say that Boomers won't date Trans women because from what I've seen out in the dating world says different. In fact it seems to me that older more established guys who have hit that point in their life where they have stopped giving a crap what people think about them and are gonna let themselves be happy tend to be all about dating us. Younger millennial's are also probably more prone to openly date us as well.



posted on Jan, 29 2018 @ 10:06 AM
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a reply to: RainbowPhoenix

Interesting article that might shed some light:

Why angry white men suddenly love calling people cucks.



posted on Jan, 30 2018 @ 01:23 AM
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in this case, "cucks" is clearly an escape clause.
so that when any of us trans women goes "actually i've had dudes of all ages all over my inbox for years"
he can go YEAH BUT THEY'RE ALL CUCKS REAL DUDES ONLY LIKE ASIANS

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anyone else feel like this thread has really gone off the rails?




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