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Jesus was most likely conceived by insemination (seriously) and was delivered by c-section like Julius Caesar himself, hence the word Caesarian section and the idea that Caesar was a son of the gods, esp. Mars and Jupiter, look what the Centurion says about Jesus when he says «his last words»-- certainly, this man was a son of the gods i.e. Caesar to any legionary. Thus, Mother Mary was still intact after the birth of Jesus and Joseph was not to blame, though he was the father genetically, the more than sixty years old Joseph claimed he had no sexual contact with the young Mary who was at the time in her early teens leading to the conception of Jesus, he wasn't even present when Mary got pregnant, but a messenger named Gabriel. His message was the Word of God, in this case the Y-chromosome of Julius Caesar and his only direct heir, Caesarion.
originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Deetermined
Matthews words refer to a physical miracle and that of John to his spiritual nature.
Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
Why did Jesus teach his followers the lord prayer ( "Our" Father who art in heaven") if we were not also siblings made in the image of GOD?
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Read Isaiah 53. It will explain it all and why Jesus said he came to fulfill the scriptures. It was to cover their sins.
Jesus was not GOD. He was just one of the paths to GOD. But rome couldn't announce papal surpremacy on a path. So enriched the story to suit their needs.
1 Timothy 4J.B. Phillips New Testament (PHILLIPS) Beware of false teachers: warn your people 4 1-2 God’s Spirit specifically tells us that in later days there will be men who abandon the true faith and allow themselves to be spiritually seduced by teachings of the devil, teachings given by men who are lying hypocrites, whose consciences are as dead as seared flesh.
originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: silo13
Well he is right about one thing...... Religion,... or put in a different perspective, the jewish understanding of religion killed Jesus.
So in your understanding that Jesus was not God is partly right in one sense of your understanding but not as John has written.
Meher Baba equated worship of the Satguru with worship of God: "Consciously or unconsciously, directly or indirectly, each and every creature, each and every human being — in one form or the other — strives to assert individuality. But when eventually man consciously experiences that he is Infinite, Eternal and Indivisible, then he is fully conscious of his individuality as God, and as such experiences Infinite Knowledge, Infinite Power and Infinite Bliss. Thus Man becomes God, and is recognized as a Perfect Master, Satguru, or Kutub. To worship this Man is to worship God.