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Breaking - FusionGPS was a subcontractor for the FBI - ran 702 inquiries w/out FISA

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posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: introvert

Edward Snowden was a contractor.
The lady who leaked NSA documents was a contractor.

well employed by contractors.




posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

The Inspector General report is due out Monday.


Last I heard it was due sometime in March. Do you have a source on this? I've been waiting for this too.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Because there is no simple answer to the convoluted method they used to try to pull off their dossier , ever bit of evidence becomes part of the whole ...



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: theantediluvian

Great post!

But if you think the company name was to small to be fusion, how do you think it could be palantir?


The second incited cited makes reference to a different company with a longer name than the first. Though, testing for a fit now, "Palantir" looks to be too long to be the name redacted. However, from what's there about a tool being installed, it certainly sounds like it will be a big data services provider like Palantir.




posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: face23785

the only thing I can find in relation to that date is this:


During a House Judiciary Committee hearing last month, Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., said the Justice Department has committed to turning over a large number of those records by Jan. 15.


IG report on Clinton email case, document dump could hold new year bombshells

Though I do recall reading that there is to be an summary report being issued ahead of the full report being concluded in March/April, but can't find where I saw that at the moment.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:42 PM
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I remember seeing mid-Jan mentioned as a release date for an update and for more docs sometime last month, but I don't remember if I it had a specific date attached.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 02:47 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Grambler

FGPS would fit nicely though.....


You can try this out yourself in Photoshop. After testing on a larger section, it's a pretty close match for Times New Roman @ 14.8 pt. Using that, FGPS appears a bit too long.



(full sized image)

It could be another 4-letter acronym with a narrower letter or two.

In any case, according to the document, the incident was uncovered during a March 9th, 2016 review and access to the raw data was discontinued on April 18th, 2016. That doesn't fit with Fusion GPS at all from everything known.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that any of this refers to Fusion GPS. "Staffed largely by private contractors" could be a reference to literally thousands of firms that do business with the federal government.

What we have here in my opinion, is a lot of wishful thinking that relies heavily on the fact that people have recently been reading about Steele and others who worked as contractors for Fusion GPS and a very strong desire to believe that the FBI did something untoward in relation to Fusion GPS/Christopher Steele.

People trying to make it fit, primed of course by spurious assertions in a post by a dubious far-right news blog on Twitter.

What's next?

"Well maybe it's a nickname like 'Fuze'! I mean it says 'private contractors' and Fusion GPS uses contractors!"


edit on 2018-1-14 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: DanteGaland

Wait how do you know Steele didn't get the hoax from kids at 4chan?? After all he is ducking congress because he knows it is BS. Why not reveal the source or testify under oath?



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

yeah if i was the fbi the minute they refused to let us see servers alarm bells would have went off. if you or i made such an outrageous claim then told fbi they can't examine our servers you better believe fbi would be at door with a search warrant for all servers.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Xcathdra

The Inspector General report is due out Monday.


Last I heard it was due sometime in March. Do you have a source on this? I've been waiting for this too.


The FBI director requested the OIG to speed up their investigation and they agreed.

Upcoming OIG Report Likely To Trigger Second Special Counsel; Comey, Lynch And Clinton In Crosshairs

On January 15, the DOJ's internal watchdog - the Office of the Inspector General (OIG), is expected to present their findings to Congressional investigators regarding a wide variety of alleged bias and malfeasance by the FBI, the Clinton campaign, and the Obama Administration - both during and after the 2016 election. Moreover, the man heading up the OIG investigation, Michael Horowitz, fought the Obama Administration to regain investigative powers which were restricted by former Attorney General Eric Holder during the Fast and Furious scandal.


click link for entire article...

This comes out the same week as Nunes briefing to Congress about the violations in the FISA program.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: xstealth

I just heard that Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS., admitted yesterday that there is no FBI Insider inside the Trump campaign or Trump Administration.

A lot of people are trying to correct this story or hide or some other thing.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xstealth

I just heard that Simpson, the head of Fusion GPS., admitted yesterday that there is no FBI Insider inside the Trump campaign or Trump Administration.

A lot of people are trying to correct this story or hide or some other thing.


FusionGPS is trying to walk back some of Simpsons statements.

Namely the inside source (there was not one) and the claim someone died connected to the dossier (no one died).



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 04:19 PM
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Fusion GPS admits DOJ official's wife Nellie Ohr hired to probe Trump


A co-founder of the opposition research firm Fusion GPS acknowledged in a new court document that his company hired the wife of a senior Justice Department official to help investigate then-candidate Donald Trump last year.

The confirmation from Glenn Simpson came in a signed declaration filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., and provided a fuller picture of the nature of Nellie Ohr’s work – after Fox News first reported on her connection to Fusion GPS.

Her husband, Bruce Ohr, was demoted at the DOJ last week for concealing his meetings with the same company, which commissioned the anti-Trump “dossier” containing salacious allegations about the now-president. Together, the Fusion connections for Mr. and Mrs. Ohr have raised Republican concerns about objectivity at the Justice Department, and even spurred a call from Trump’s outside counsel for a separate special prosecutor.

Simpson’s statement shows Mrs. Ohr was indeed involved in the Trump research. He said bank records reflect Fusion GPS contracted with her “to help our company with its research and analysis of Mr. Trump.”


Click link for full article.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 04:23 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

The FBI should be disbanded. I see nothing to trust from them.

Thugs with no honor or integrity.

I dont like the FBI and now will celebrate when bad things happen to them.

They are not one of us. They live above the law. So why do we place ourselves below them?

Screw the law I guess. They work for criminals, like the scum bag scrubs they are.

Go fetch Effers. I think your owners want some coffee or something.


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posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Xcathdra

The FBI should be disbanded. I see nothing to trust from them.

Thugs with no honor or integrity.

I dont like the FBI and now will celebrate when bad things happen to them.

They are not one of us. They live above the law. So why do we place ourselves below them?

Screw then law I guess.




I believe the problems are at the higher end of the rank spectrum. Remember the FBI HQ took control of anything Clinton related, tasking it out of the hands of the fields offices.

Destroying the entire FBI because of the top doesn't fix anything.

I also remember there being a lot of reporting of how angry FBI agents were when Clinton was not charged and the reports of resignations over that. Comey made that comment at a congressional hearing.

Speaking from experience I know what it is like to have a member of command staff interfere in an investigation for political reasons.



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I dont know. I try to hold out and dont mind sticking my neck out for a worthy party no matter the outrage or hatred received. I defend LEOs in most cases because really they are trying to do the right thing in most cases and its HARD to do that. So, respect.

That said,

Everyone in the FBI should resign. Everyone else who still thinks they should be there regardless of ACTUAL public service or effectual public disservice is a problem.

I could make a killing as a drug dealer or a common thug. I resign myself to obey the law even though in most cases I could go around robbing people and kicking their ass wherever I feel its meritted. I choose to live within the confines of the law we ALL agreed to live under.

Why cant they do that?

If they cant its not the end of the world. We can make a new agency, or 100 if we feel like it.

If the FBI is sick then fix it or put it down. We dont NEED them. Thats the point. Not if they are part of the problem.

We need a federal agency that is anal with procedure and is respected for its integrity as a firm believer in the rule of law. That's not the FBI right now and we REALLY need that, with or without them.


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posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Xcathdra

I love it how politicians, lawyers, TV newscasters all dance around legalese so as to confuse, confound and provide confirmation bias to the eager-to-be-offended.

Here is the short, around the campfire, version:

Obama, Hillary and everyone working for them used whatever means were at their disposal to get info on Trump during the 2016 US Presidential campaign, so they created a document in order to carry out their agenda of spying on all-things-Trump. They did this with impunity because the TV's were belly-laughing at the thought of a Trump presidency and it was a 'shoe-in' for Ol Dodgy to gain the throne. They didn't count on Trump winning and their little game being exposed.

.......and at the head of this snake you can guarantee Ol Dodgy was calling ALL the shots.


I bolded the part above...What are the odds that Obama/Hillary/DNC not only used whatever means to get info on Trump, but went through the same exact channels to get info on several other people, they perhaps couldn't control? This goes deeper than just 'getting info about Trump'.
Rotten to the core!

Ya know... as "insurance"... as stated in McCabe's office.

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posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Ill be interested in the IG report tomorrow

No MLK day for them?



posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 05:07 PM
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John Podesta Met With Fusion GPS Founder After Trump Dossier Was Published - 11:59 AM 11/11/2017


Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta met with the founder of the opposition research firm behind the Trump dossier just after the dirty document was published earlier this year, according to a new report in The New York Times.

The revelation is significant because Podesta, a longtime Democratic operative, recently told the Senate Intelligence Committee that he did not know who paid the research firm, Fusion GPS, to produce the dossier, which BuzzFeed published on Jan. 10.

An associate of Podesta’s told The Times that he met with Glenn Simpson, the founding partner of Fusion GPS, to compare notes about Russia’s meddling in the election.

Podesta’s associate told The Times that Simpson was considering whether his firm should continue its investigation of Trump’s alleged ties to Russia.

The Times report does not say whether Podesta and Simpson discussed the Clinton campaign’s involvement in the dossier project.

It was reported last month that Perkins Coie, the law firm that represented the Clinton campaign and DNC, hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 to investigate Trump. Fusion hired former British spy Christopher Steele that June to investigate Trump’s activities in Russia.


click link for article...
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posted on Jan, 14 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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I just cant say it enough.

This is an outrage. Screw the FBI, Oh my vengeful God, GO DIE.

Bastards.

Its worse BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FBI. Much worse.

This is what I feel when I hear about child molesting priests or other such people we depend on to be a EFFING ROCK.

They failed us.


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