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Originally posted by SomewhereinBetween
What a silly thread to start!
Is it not enough for now that they supposedly gave us:
Writing, the basics of law, and mathematics, possibly even medicine. Without all of those the advancements of today would have either been stunted or not as progressive as it is currently. I mean, is it not believed the Garden of Eden is there, and that in itself is the ultimate triumph? These very people you seek to denegrate held special dispensation in God's eyes, you held nothing.
So what exactly is the complaint? Do you look to them for everything? Is it not enough that other countries get to ride their coat-tails? What is it?
It goes to my point that they gave us the building blocks that we have come to depend on today necessary for advancement since. These great achievements obviously do not seem to be enough given your comment
Originally posted by JanusIm not sure what you mean by a silly thread, did you read the entire thread? No one was pulling down Islam on this thread. I started the thread to discuss a quote from the Arch Bishop of Canterbury, i had no pre conceived ideas about if it was true or not and thought it was something worthy of discussion.
I think we established the things the Muslim world gave to us early on in the thread, such as medicine a and writing etc.
I didn't seek to denigrate anything or anyone. Where did you get the idea that i did?
As for the Garden of Eden im really not sure where that fits in to the topic being discussed, perhaps you could enlighten us as to the connection between Eden and the advancement of science in the Muslim World?
There is no complaint from anyone who has so far replied to this silly thread, as you put it, it has been a thought provoking discussion that has helped me understand the quote in the original post, you did read the original post didn't you?
Again perhaps you could explain your post a little more just in case i miss interpreted it.
So i sat back and wondered why this could be, is it the Religion? Or perhaps that Muslim Countries may be too inward looking? Or could it be that Islam views the Sciences as heretical in some way? So if there are any Muslims or anyone who can throw some light on this for me i would appreciate it. Also if hard-line Muslims got their way and we were all converted would this mean an end to scientific advancement?
m going to bet dollars to donuts without even looking that some of the top programmers in the world are muslim, top Microbiologists, and even Surgouns are muslim. Lets kill this thread.
Arrogance over technology and elevation of a culture because of inventions is deplorable in my book and I debated even commeniting on this.
Iraq had the third best health care sysem in the world
The truth is that these cultures have not had the resources for advancement as the west has had.
To reiterate my point, in as few words as possible..so what? they gave us the beginning of all that we have, whay does there have to be more?
Originally posted by Janus
No one doubts the things the Muslim world gave us in the past, but as the title of the thread say no inventions have come from from the Muslim World in 100 years then i think that any advancements made by the Muslim world before then would be hardly relevant to the topic being discussed.