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Tucker Carlson on Schools Banning Best Friends

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posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 02:44 AM
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Also the fact that this sounds totally wacky and insane is because it is and that's exactly the point, when you take what seem like righteous ideals so far that you no longer care about logic, you enter into insane territory and that's what I'm trying to point out. Endless virtue signaling will not lead us down a good path. The path to hell is paved that way.




posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 02:49 AM
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a reply to: Konduit

Kids these days won't/can't see it, they're the ones in the shiny bright video you posted hailing their Captors. We're the insane ones in their eyes. aka Old School.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 02:55 AM
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it goes from one psych's opinion, then for the sake of partisanship, slowly goes to "society, swj, libs, dems, and the left '

thus , the only discussion left to be had is a devise left vs right issue, and not the actual topic of discussion.

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on topic, i dont see the connection between exclusivity and a child being more attached to a particular friend than another. maybe this is based on a misconstrued case study or paper published.
perhaps there may be some truth to children feeling a bit left out in some context, but I don't think its no more than the same dynamic between siblings. pretty much every one with siblings tend to have some level of preference or comfortability.

and there is no conceivable way to 'ban' best friends, its simply an idea or conviction.

.. why cant the discussion be about psychology instead of attacks for party affiliations...



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 03:03 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Was the article for something happening in the US? Because I don't think anything like that is happening in the US or it would have been big news.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
it goes from one psych's opinion, then for the sake of partisanship, slowly goes to "society, swj, libs, dems, and the left '

I didn't use the terms liberal or democrat at all. I stuck to left and socialist.


.. why cant the discussion be about psychology instead of attacks for party affiliations...

Where do you see me endorsing a particular political party? I'm criticizing a particular ideology and it's not just a political ideology, it's the logic used to form insane arguments such as kids shouldn't have best friends and other forms of social engineering. I was going to put this in the political ideology forum but this still seemed like a better choice because it's a social issue and the video is the focus of my topic, my commentary is just to add my opinion and follow ATS rules.
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posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

You want to talk about forced programming, this is it.

You HAVE to be friends with people you normally wouldn't be friends with, to protect social structure.

Hello 1984



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 05:35 AM
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Primordial Goo be thy agenda.




posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

This had me choking from laughter on my coffee this morning.

Seriously? Ban best friends. Sorry growing up I was never one who wanted to be part of a group. I always preferred, and still do, to have a few close friends. To me it's quality over quantity! I am 39 years old and I can count my actual friends on one hand but I also know I can count on them for anything. Sure I have many online friends but my actual true friends are few and far between.

Do people nowadays just sit around thinking of crap to ban or be offended by? It really boggles my mind lately.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 05:52 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

How do you ban best friends?

Im unable to envision how that works



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 05:55 AM
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originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
Tucker recently just did an interview with a psychotherapist who was trying to promote the idea that kids having best friends is "exclusionary" and may cause some kids to feel left out, so the best way to deal with this is to ban best friends and encourage kids to have a large group of friends. Tucker makes some very good points to counter her insane arguments, pointing out that marriage could also be considered highly exclusionary but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing.


Even the psychotherapist admits that kids who have best friends grow up to be more mentally stable and have lower levels of anxiety than those who don't. Yet she still tries to claim this is the best thing to do because it will protect kids from feeling left out. Although this is a recent interview from Tucker, this is not at all a new issue and I actually recall seeing a thread on this subject back in 2012 when we learned that some schools in the UK had already implemented the rule banning kids from having best friends.

This really cuts down to the core reason why I oppose thin skinned SJW's who think we need to protect everyone from feeling any negative emotions. As if we can achieve utopia if we just start being super fake and nice to each other. They actually seem to think that encouraging "pack" or "herd" behavior in children is a good thing, they want to strip them of all individuality and rob them of the chance to form meaningful relationships. Kids often need a close friends that they can trust and confide in, and they will choose best friends whether teachers want them to or not.

Some socialists seem to have absolutely no respect for individuality or personal liberty, they think we should all just hold hands and sing songs in order to solve the worlds problems, if we just come together as one united group and all do our part everything will work smoothly. It's like organized religion in a way, they encourage a group mentality and suppress individual out-of-the-box thinking because they desire conformity. It's highly ironic really, because they claim to be so progressive but cannot see how they are encouraging oppressive systems of government which have no respect for individuals.

The greatest achievers in history are almost always abnormal and quirky people who don't quite fit into the mold of normal society, by encouraging kids to operate with a socialist group mentality we will have less out-of-the-box thinkers and more of the same old thing. That's why communism, an extreme form of socialism, typically produces towns and cities where all the buildings look the same, there is no individuality or human spirit in those systems. Everyone behaves the same, looks the same, thinks the same way, has the same fake smile, has the same pitiful level of wealth, etc.

At the core of it that's probably what annoys me most about these far left socialists, they deny reality at the most fundamental level because they are too mentally weak to handle it, and they try to build up a reality where we no longer have to deal with the harsh truths of our mortal existence. But it's not healthy, it is a lie and when you finally do get smacked in the face by reality the shock will be very extreme if you tried to live your life inside of a safe space. The second episode of the new season of Black Mirror does a great job of showing how being overprotective of children can backfire terribly.



IMO good luck to whoever attempts to ban Besties..... you can try as you might but people will always have one or a few connections that they value above other connections they have. That's just life.

-Alee



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 06:55 AM
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That is what I also believe, it should be quality over quantity, but they actually seem to think that isn't true and that the only thing kids should worry about is having a large friend list, it doesn't matter if none of them are actually true friends. And for what, so they can avoid feeling any real human emotions that every child has felt since the dawn of time?



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Psychology should be striving to maintain normalcy amongst humans. The basis of psychology is treating what is considered abnormal.

Forcing humans to express abnormal behavoir seems to be anathema to her discipline.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
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How do you ban best friends?

Im unable to envision how that works


quite easily. teachers watch the kids, both in class and at recess/lunch. and if you see that certain kids seem to hang out and do stuff together, you break them up and force them to play and do things with others. possibly even banning particular kids from being together for a period of time, as punishment for excluding others. i have even seen reports and stories of praising teachers who are making this happen, by doing things like changing seating around to force kids to work with others all the time, as well as forcing kids to do projects with different partners all the time. as a way to keep "friends" from working and sitting together, and possibly excluding others. yet again using this as a way to stop the kids from having best friends[i] and instead be inclusive with all the kids.

what this psychologist is doing having this interview is doing is to try to get parents on board with it. and by using her profession as a psychologist as a tool to show people she is right about it. just like that whole consensus of science thing that is used in much the same way. and that anyone who does not agree is obviously pretty dumb not to take their opinions as facts, and follow their beliefs. as they obviously know better then the rest of us since they are professionals who know best. and yet shoving it into schools, and using such knowledgeable professionals is only a part of the way they are trying to force this on kids. another part is all the memes and posts going around on social media on how you should be forcing your kids to not favour any kids over other kids. or on how a great parent teaches their kids not to be close with any particular children, but to be sure to be equally friends with all the kids. and how if they notice a child say eating alone, they should go and leave their friends and eat with them instead. usually framed in such a way that it is to stop bullying.

if they can make that kind of thinking normal to parents as well as kids, it make it easier to ostracize any kid who has best friends over others. and that is the key to pushing this type of agenda, to make something normal and thus anyone who goes against it a problem, as they are going against societal norms. something we see all to much these days.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 07:00 AM
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originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: ChaoticOrder

How do you ban best friends?

Im unable to envision how that works

Well like any rule I'm sure some kids will disobey it and there's no real way to prevent it entirely. Based on the snippet from the article in the other thread they basically just say it's not allowed and try to encourage them to play in large groups.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 07:14 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Now everyone gets a participation trophy for friendship.

You can't regulate this outside of school so why would it even matter?



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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This goes as much for Tucker as it does the OP:

Stop legitimizing stupid points of view from stupid people that no one listens to anyway.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 08:07 AM
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I'm about as far left as you can be, and I don't agree with the premise of banning best friends at all. Some of us are introverts, and introverts don't do well socializing in large groups. My daughter is an introvert and has always only wanted one or two close friends to hang out with.

Having said that, I do feel for kids who have a hard time finding and making friends, but rather than making introverted kids suffer, I'd prefer some program to help match kids up with a potential "best friend".



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 08:10 AM
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a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Well written, concisely stated...and I agree whole heartedly! S&F

This is right up there with play the game, but don't keep score (i.e. no winners, therefore no losers) and trophies for just showing up. And, it absolutely is a paradigm of the left! You don't hear the right shrieking this nonsense! It absolutely is all about indoctrinating children to accept a socialist world as they grow older, socialist economic systems, socialist policies and straight up socialism hook, line and sinker. It's actually pretty shocking (and thoroughly disappointing) to see this mentality thread through society today; it does not bode well for the future at all.

It wasn't that long ago when you'd hear statements like..."The next thing you know they'll be banning best friends!" It seemed total lunacy then, a comparative of unacceptable extremes. Now mental health "professionals" are openly discussing it. And no, this posture is not unique to just this one 'individual'. On the contrary, it is a growing trend virtually everywhere we look.

"It takes a village to raise a child" is just one small step away from "It takes a village to raise a village"

Thank you for posting this madness; people need to see this idiocy for what it truly is.


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posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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To me a best friend is someone (purely hypothetical example coming) that if I call saying I need help getting rid of a body, they grab a shovel and say I know just the spot.

Now that is an extreme example, but it gets the gist of my thinking across, they are there for you without needing a committee and 30 days to decide if its worth it to help.



posted on Jan, 13 2018 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: generik

At school..ok.

But at home?

School is less than 1/3 of any day. Plus weekends.

Its simply harassing kids as an experiment on them as humans




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