Trumplethinskin Cancels London Visit, Blaming Obama With A Lie

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
a reply to: theantediluvian


Obama sold the place to a rich muslim for peanuts and a healthy kickback, so he can make a 5 star hotel.

Uranium 1 style.

Where's Mueller? Mueller!

Boris Johnson, Trump's pal in the UK cabinet, sold lots of London off to the Qataris too. It's not a muslim thing, it's a money thing.

originally posted by: SprocketUK

The very same Labour party people banging on about the right to protest against him were, a few years ago, tight lipped about a huge police operation to keep protests out of sight of the Chinese premier who's country's human rights record was a bloody joke compared to anything Trump might ever have done.

Are you talking about Blair's Labour Party, who welcomed the Chinese, or Corbyn's, who didn't? Not the same Labour Party at all.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

The unwashed Labour supporters would be all over it, but they do not represent Britain, they are the opposition party in the UK, bit like your Dem's but more socialist.

Who does represent Britain?

I know it's not the mayor of London, that's the best answer I can give you.

Nicely deflected but it doesn't hide the vacuum at the centre of your argument.

Nevertheless, Khan wasn't speaking for the UK. He was speaking for London. The city that elected him. Will of the People and all that,

What vacuum at the centre of my argument?
I don't believe that the majority of British people are against Trump visiting. I believe most don't give a toss, but the left wing minority happen to be the most vocal.
What are you arguing against?

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

The very same Labour party people banging on about the right to protest against him were, a few years ago, tight lipped about a huge police operation to keep protests out of sight of the Chinese premier who's country's human rights record was a bloody joke compared to anything Trump might ever have done.

Are you talking about Blair's Labour Party, who welcomed the Chinese, or Corbyn's, who didn't? Not the same Labour Party at all.

Same MP's so same party.
Jezza hasn't really stopped it being NU Labour yet so you can't say it's different.

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: theantediluvian

Why are all you liberal's worried about the UK?,they have their own leader,ours was voted to run our country,the people in the UK have different ideas,so what never the twain shall meet,liberals never use sense nor truth or logic

One could hypothesize that it has little to do with the UK, but instead blaming Obama with lies (per the title of this thread)

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

The very same Labour party people banging on about the right to protest against him were, a few years ago, tight lipped about a huge police operation to keep protests out of sight of the Chinese premier who's country's human rights record was a bloody joke compared to anything Trump might ever have done.

Are you talking about Blair's Labour Party, who welcomed the Chinese, or Corbyn's, who didn't? Not the same Labour Party at all.

Same MP's so same party.
Jezza hasn't really stopped it being NU Labour yet so you can't say it's different.

Apart from the differences in ideology, policies and their attitude to the Chinese, you're right.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

The unwashed Labour supporters would be all over it, but they do not represent Britain, they are the opposition party in the UK, bit like your Dem's but more socialist.

Who does represent Britain?

I know it's not the mayor of London, that's the best answer I can give you.

Nicely deflected but it doesn't hide the vacuum at the centre of your argument.

Nevertheless, Khan wasn't speaking for the UK. He was speaking for London. The city that elected him. Will of the People and all that,

What vacuum at the centre of my argument?
I don't believe that the majority of British people are against Trump visiting. I believe most don't give a toss, but the left wing minority happen to be the most vocal.
What are you arguing against?

I'm not arguing against anything, I'm trying to get you to explain.

In case you've lost the thread, let me summarise our discussion.

You: Khan doesn't speak for most Brits.

Me: who does speak for most Brits?

You: Khan doesn't.

Me: LOLWUT? Khan doesn't claim to speak for most Brits. Who does?

You: most people don't care.

So, the question stands: who speaks for most Brits?

BTW...I don't think this is a left-right thing. A lot of Tories I know think he's an arse.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

Well if you wanna be like a dog with a bone about an off topic side issue question which you raised, nobody speaks for most Brits obviously. The Tories and DUP merely speak for the majority control of MP's in Parliament.

So back on topic I couldn't give a toss if Trump comes here or not, we've hosted worse than him. I also think protesting against him is lame as # but I defend the right of anyone to protest even if I think they are twats.

im curious if he had flown to london and had the massive expenses that go with it, would people be complaining about that aswell? cant really win and quite honestly if its not a significant event like one world trade center or something highly significant and relevant to the times then id rather our politicians not waste their time and our tax dollars to feel like a celebrity n front of a crowd

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

The very same Labour party people banging on about the right to protest against him were, a few years ago, tight lipped about a huge police operation to keep protests out of sight of the Chinese premier who's country's human rights record was a bloody joke compared to anything Trump might ever have done.

Are you talking about Blair's Labour Party, who welcomed the Chinese, or Corbyn's, who didn't? Not the same Labour Party at all.

Same MP's so same party.
Jezza hasn't really stopped it being NU Labour yet so you can't say it's different.

Apart from the differences in ideology, policies and their attitude to the Chinese, you're right.

Nothing's changed. If you believe it has, I got some cool magic beans for sale...

All of the usual suspects, all of the usual outrage. Over what? Trump cancelling a trip. You're reaching new levels of pathetic guys.

LOL

A Convenient lie.

No big deal. No great tread.

Hard to leave home and office in troubled times and rumor of wars. This whole NK situation could degenerate, escalate or has been prepared. Beside golf,I guess he has much more important things to do. He is practical, He went in France and Poland for good reasons, and reasons for UK visit might not be as worthy.

Afterall, Trump doesn't need the protests in the street of London, and the King of England, HM Sadiq 1st does want to see him in his realm.

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: SprocketUK

The very same Labour party people banging on about the right to protest against him were, a few years ago, tight lipped about a huge police operation to keep protests out of sight of the Chinese premier who's country's human rights record was a bloody joke compared to anything Trump might ever have done.

Are you talking about Blair's Labour Party, who welcomed the Chinese, or Corbyn's, who didn't? Not the same Labour Party at all.

Same MP's so same party.
Jezza hasn't really stopped it being NU Labour yet so you can't say it's different.

Apart from the differences in ideology, policies and their attitude to the Chinese, you're right.

Nothing's changed. If you believe it has, I got some cool magic beans for sale...

Unlike my other exchange, this is a side issue. A fertile one.

I'll just park one thought: Corbyn is the only anti-globalist party leader, a personal Leaver.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

That, I agree with. Trouble is Labour is full of remainers. Wanting to scuttle brexit , until he deals with them, I'm afraid his personalp position is moot.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

Trump has shown himself time and time again to be thin skinned. I can bet once Trump's out of office, he'll write a book titled "It's All Obama's fault"', lol. His presidency is a circus and he's making America and it's people look like fools.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Sprocket,

That just is not accurate. Labour has some members of parliament who are not fans of the idea of leaving the EU, thats true. But the insistence is that they respect the will of their constituents, and indeed respect the will of the people, something that Corbyn takes very seriously indeed. What the irrelevant specks to the right of the Labour party think about it, being as they are, more concerned with their wallets than the people or the country, is entirely moot in the face of how they are instructed to comport themselves by the people, and by the leadership of the party they are members of.

Its not FULL of Remainers. It has some. It also has those who are willing to give the people the lead on this, and follow their directive, which makes them actually acceptable candidates for high office, people who know their place, relative to the collective will of the electorate. That is something to be very pleased about. Its been some time since this important value, was given the pride of place it deserves.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Corbyn? Like jeremy corbyn? Wasn't he the guy that said hugo chavez was showing the world how to care for the poor a couple years back? If so, I'd say his judgement is pretty flawed.

ETA: Yep, that's the guy LINK

a reply to: Dfairlite

Yes, that is the guy.

And for what its worth, Chavez did a great deal of good for his people, and was done down for it by the international community, who regularly committed economic assaults on the Venezuelan people and their credit lines, purely for ideological reasons. Those assaults are what led to much of the economic trouble in the country, during Chavez's reign there... but never mind the facts, just keep blowing the corporatist horn. *Yawn*

And by the way, that tweet is from the day of Mr Chavez's death.

originally posted by: WeRpeons
a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

Trump has shown himself time and time again to be thin skinned. I can bet once Trump's out of office, he'll write a book titled "It's All Obama's fault"', lol. His presidency is a circus and he's making America and it's people look like fools.

Hmmm,

The left and the MSM literally react to every last thing Trump says and have for 18 months and he's the one who's thin skinned?

It's the left all over the MSM crying day after day. It was the left crying and screaming in the streets. It was the left shutting down opposition speech as they can't handle opposing opinions. It's the left which has created safe spaces across the country.

But sure, Trump is thin skinned.

originally posted by: WhyDidIJoin
a reply to: theantediluvian

You can bash trump all you want. 1 year ago I started in the stock market with a 10k loan. Today I have almost a million dollars... one million... I was in a # apartment with a # life, now I'm actually comfortable for once. Not in a dank basement with god knows what crawling around me.

Cool--you got a 10k loan.