Trumps comment that used profanity about countries immigrants come from and reactions to it

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Your "CNN Fact-Checkers" thingy is, how do I put this...a complete lie.

Here:

The American Institute of Philanthropy’s Charity Watch, reached the same conclusion. It has given the Clinton Foundation an A rating and says it spends only 12 percent of the money it raises on "overhead."

"The Clinton Foundation is an excellent charity," Charity Watch president Daniel Borochoff said Aug. 24, 2016, on CNN. "They are able to get 88 percent of their spending to bona fide program services and their fundraising efficiency is really low. It only costs them $2 to raise $100."

Sandra Minuitti at the group Charity Navigator used the same general calculation when talking to our colleagues FactCheck.org, though she did not include the Clinton Foundation’s affiliates. By that measure, in 2013, 80.6 percent of spending was on program services.

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Even Judge Napolitano said that this is an all time low for president Camacho.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Trumps question was legitimate.

These countries are crappy.

Statistics also show that immigrating from crappy countries on average leads to struggling economically, and having a lower skill set.

That doesn't mean that the people are bad.

It's just asking why we take so many of them, when the rule of our government should be to bring in people with the best chance of helping out country.

Now I know many on the left hate this. You can see it in this thread.

They sneer at the idea of helping America first.

Trump saying this truth doesn't make him a racist.

As far as cling to guns and bibles, you know obama meant it as an insult, and are being dis honest presenting it otherwise.

As far as whataboutism.

The difference is the magnitude of the reaction.

The people in power, the media, and politicians, didn't remotely react with this hysteria to obama and Clintons comments.

Also, the comments are different

Saying these people come from crappy countries is stating a fact.

Saying people are deplorable is not anything based in fact, it is purely an insult.

And it was about People in this country that she was running to serve.

It would be the difference of some one from another country saying Americans were deplorable or crappy, vs someone who is running to represent those Americans saying it.

Yes neither is nice, but the person running is way worse for obvious reasons.

a reply to: neo96

September 11th Hijackers Fast Facts

Hijackers by Nationality:
Egypt
Mohamed Atta

Lebanon
Ziad Jarrah

Saudi Arabia
Ahmed al Ghamdi
Hamza al Ghamdi
Saeed al Ghamdi
Hani Hanjour
Nawaf al Hazmi
Salem al Hazmi
Ahmad al Haznawi
Ahmed al Nami
Khalid al Mihdhar
Majed Moqed
Abdul Aziz al Omari
Mohand al Shehri
Wail al Shehri
Waleed al Shehri
Satam al Suqami

United Arab Emirates
Fayez Banihammad
Marwan al Shehhi

Any of those guys from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Yemen, Sudan or Somalia?

You might also want to check this out:

Where Do Terrorists Come From? Not the Nations Named in Trump Ban

Specifically, look at Foreign-Born Terrorist Country of Origin, 1975-2015. The ban wasn't sold as having something to do as a form of sanction against state sponsors of terror, past or present, but as a measure to protect Americans from people who might be dangerous and slip through the vetting process.

So yeah. The choice of countries makes no sense for the stated purpose.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Trumps list was based on the list obama created of dangerous countries.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Are you effing kidding me ?

Makes perfect sense.

Iran waging proxy wars in Syria,Yemen.,and Iraq

Somalia. Piracy and Blackhawk down some years ago.

Sudan.

en.wikipedia.org...

Country or origin is meanlingless because Islamic terrorism recognized no borders.

originally posted by: kosmicjack
They are wall to wall on social media resoundingly showing their approval and their racist stripes .

Ah yes, in this modern world we live in countries are now classified as a race... curious that position, does that mean criticism of Israel truly is now viewed as antisemitism?

The hyperbolic insults, they stopped working to squelch dissent over a year ago, maybe it's time to retire them and focus on a more productive line of discourse.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Ah yes, in this modern world we live in countries are now classified as a race... curious that position, does that mean criticism of Israel truly is now viewed as antisemitism?

Don't forget Christians.

Next time they whine bout them they're RACIST!

originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Trump speaks truth.

Left throws tantrum.

Another day, another Win!

This post could be a thread all by itself.

Trump claims Obama birth certificate not real SHOCKING NEWS!!!
Member that? He claimed to have proof. Trump is fake news.
Trump claims grabbing pussy is what he does...but that's locker room talk...there are so many instances of Herr Orange lying or extrapolating BEFORE he was president, not to mention making fun of a disabled reporter....this isn't the guy you would want to invite home.

a reply to: Grambler

A Man who Calls them as He Sees them . A #hole Country Indeed .

I think President Trump speaks for the People of the USA, not the pig, dogs and cows. Im a people. Which one are you?

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: theantediluvian

Are you effing kidding me ?

Makes perfect sense.

Iran waging proxy wars in Syria,Yemen.,and Iraq

Somalia. Piracy and Blackhawk down some years ago.

Sudan.

en.wikipedia.org...

Country or origin is meanlingless because Islamic terrorism recognized no borders.

Interesting position.

If Islamic terrorism does not recognize borders, what logic is there in a travel ban in the first place?

a reply to: introvert

Tell me where's the GD logic is allowing travel to war torn countries?

Tsarnev traveled to Pakistan.

Had there been a travel ban before 911 would the buildings be standing ?

Would that the first world trade center attack happened in 1993 ?

Where's the GD logic with free and open travel to known state sponsors of terrorism?

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I think President Trump speaks for the People of the USA, not the pig, dogs and cows. Im a people. Which one are you?

He only speeks for Cult 45

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: theantediluvian
It's just asking why we take so many of tjem, when the rule of our government should be to bring in people with the best chance of helping out country.

So, here's the problem.

Trump doesn't want the high skill immigrant labor to come in, he's restricting all the H1-B visas that usually bring in these guys. The problem there, is the high skill immigrants take the "best jobs", and American Citizens want those jobs, even if they are not qualified for them, they still want them. They're upset that these foreigners are coming and taking the "high pay" work.

So, that's out with the skilled immigrants.

Now, Trump doesn't want the low skill immigrant labor, because, well he doesn't want America sliding backward to become a 3rd world nation. But, these low skill immigrants take the "worst jobs" that no Americans really want to do, that need to be done anyway.

People need to ask Trump to "define" the ideal immigrant he thinks America should take in. Because, it doesn't seem that person exists.

a reply to: neo96

Again, if Islamic terrorism does not recognize borders, what logic is there in a travel ban in the first place?

a reply to: AMPTAH

People need to ask Trump to "define" the ideal immigrant he thinks America should take in.

That's easy.

One that obeys US LAW.

a reply to: AMPTAH

" But, these low skill immigrants take the "worst jobs" that no Americans really want to do, that need to be done anyway. "


Uninformed People Still Pushing that MYTH I see . When it comes to Providing for American Families , Any Job is Better than being a Slave to the Welfare State that dosen't Give a Personal Damn about You Unless you are a Registered Democratic Voter........

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: neo96

Again, if Islamic terrorism does not recognize borders, what logic is there in a travel ban in the first place?

The FACT that state sponsors of terrorism have terrorist training camps.

The 'news' use to show them all the time back in the 90s.

Using a mugshot of Bill Clinton as target practice.

if those countries aren`t # holes than why are the people leaving to come to America? and why aren`t an equal number of americans leaving to go to those countries?