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Trumps Fake News Awards...a theory...

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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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Thread back in November...

Trump Calls for a MSM Honesty Contest

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I said...


originally posted by: ausername
First annual fake news awards

Could be yuuge!



lol




posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: dug88

My thoughts exactly. I wonder what kind of legal recourse will taken if the outlets that "win" see their numbers drop following this circus.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: underwerks

Actually I thoroughly researched and posted about the indictments when the first popped up.

Feel free to find the thread and read. You are not comparing the same things with what you posted and your link.

Please, show me evidence. I haven't seen anything verifiable in any thread or "news" story about it. Only anonymous sources.

Thanks.


I made a thread on it and even linked to the US Govt doc citing the number of sealed cases in a particular year and how unusual it was for even the first 12 to be in DC alone.

It will come up in a search I'm sure. I don't have time to rehash it all again.

I went back to last May on your OP's and this is the only one I found:
12 Sealed Indictments now

Read the first few pages and the last few, and it seems by the posters responses you haven't provided any evidence of what you're saying at all. If I'm wrong, please point me to the section where you lay out the evidence.

The last pages are people asking where the evidence is, with barely any response.

ETA: I really want to know. If there really is damning evidence this is happening it can only help you to rehash it here.
edit on 11-1-2018 by underwerks because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: dug88

My thoughts exactly. I wonder what kind of legal recourse will taken if the outlets that "win" see their numbers drop following this circus.


Doubt it would be anywhere close to the amount lost when MSM caused a 350 point drop in stock market due to fake news reports.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:30 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: underwerks

Actually I thoroughly researched and posted about the indictments when the first popped up.

Feel free to find the thread and read. You are not comparing the same things with what you posted and your link.

Please, show me evidence. I haven't seen anything verifiable in any thread or "news" story about it. Only anonymous sources.

Thanks.


I made a thread on it and even linked to the US Govt doc citing the number of sealed cases in a particular year and how unusual it was for even the first 12 to be in DC alone.

It will come up in a search I'm sure. I don't have time to rehash it all again.

I went back to last May on your OP's and this is the only one I found:
12 Sealed Indictments now

Read the first few pages and the last few, and it seems by the posters responses you haven't provided any evidence of what you're saying at all. If I'm wrong, please point me to the section where you lay out the evidence.

The last pages are people asking where the evidence is, with barely any response.

ETA: I really want to know. If there really is damning evidence this is happening it can only help you to rehash it here.


You read the first few and last few pages in 8 minutes? Did you go through any links? Did you find the govt doc I linked to? Do you know what PACER is?

It's a 41 page thread. Feel free to read through it....I don't plan to rehash here.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: dug88

Partially my reasoning for my theory.

But either way they aren't telling anyone who to believe...they are pointing out false news accounts. I'd say that's the duty of the news organizations but they obviously don't do that.


By calling it false they are implying there is certain news that should and shouldn't be listened to. This isn't just anybody saying this, this is the leader of a government. The government is deciding what's real and what's fake. Sounds like some good old fashioned Soviet or Nazi style propaganda to me. Especially wrapping it up in a nice easily digestible, memorable 'award show' for the masses.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: YouSir


I don't know from all but will grant "mostly."

I think the original tweet was a joke/attempt at humor and a way to poke at his political/media enemies.

I think it got a lot of traction and he decided to go ahead and actually do it.

I don't believe there was much thought behind it in the first place, however.



Ummm...on the contrary...I think there's a great deal of thought that goes into this whole show...face it...that's what it is...a show...

It's absolute genius...

This Presidency will set the stage for all future presidencies...good or bad...the genie can simply not be put back in the bottle at this stage of the game...

IMO...of course...



YouSir



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: underwerks

Actually I thoroughly researched and posted about the indictments when the first popped up.

Feel free to find the thread and read. You are not comparing the same things with what you posted and your link.

Please, show me evidence. I haven't seen anything verifiable in any thread or "news" story about it. Only anonymous sources.

Thanks.


I made a thread on it and even linked to the US Govt doc citing the number of sealed cases in a particular year and how unusual it was for even the first 12 to be in DC alone.

It will come up in a search I'm sure. I don't have time to rehash it all again.

I went back to last May on your OP's and this is the only one I found:
12 Sealed Indictments now

Read the first few pages and the last few, and it seems by the posters responses you haven't provided any evidence of what you're saying at all. If I'm wrong, please point me to the section where you lay out the evidence.

The last pages are people asking where the evidence is, with barely any response.

ETA: I really want to know. If there really is damning evidence this is happening it can only help you to rehash it here.


You read the first few and last few pages in 8 minutes? Did you go through any links? Did you find the govt doc I linked to? Do you know what PACER is?

It's a 41 page thread. Feel free to read through it....I don't plan to rehash here.

Actually it was a little less than 8 minutes.

I'm not going to spend time reading 40+ pages to find the nugget of truth you're claiming is in there, if you can't even seem to find it. It's your thread, you know where it is better than I do.

Why is it so hard to just link to the information proving you correct?



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: dug88

Partially my reasoning for my theory.

But either way they aren't telling anyone who to believe...they are pointing out false news accounts. I'd say that's the duty of the news organizations but they obviously don't do that.


By calling it false they are implying there is certain news that should and shouldn't be listened to. This isn't just anybody saying this, this is the leader of a government. The government is deciding what's real and what's fake. Sounds like some good old fashioned Soviet or Nazi style propaganda to me. Especially wrapping it up in a nice easily digestible, memorable 'award show' for the masses.


Trumps been around for a year. Are you suggesting he has more sway than MSM has had in the last 100 years.

Trouble is you have to have someone that has a large bullhorn to get a message across when you aren't holding your own people accountable for stories that may carry more than just the actual news.

This isn't anyone saying dontbwatch it or you can't watch it...it is someone calling out which ones report the facts without political motivation or agenda.....personally I believe it is a needed action as it appears most of the populace these days are prone to just regurgitating what they hear versus actually digging to see if true.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: underwerks

Actually I thoroughly researched and posted about the indictments when the first popped up.

Feel free to find the thread and read. You are not comparing the same things with what you posted and your link.

Please, show me evidence. I haven't seen anything verifiable in any thread or "news" story about it. Only anonymous sources.

Thanks.


I made a thread on it and even linked to the US Govt doc citing the number of sealed cases in a particular year and how unusual it was for even the first 12 to be in DC alone.

It will come up in a search I'm sure. I don't have time to rehash it all again.

I went back to last May on your OP's and this is the only one I found:
12 Sealed Indictments now

Read the first few pages and the last few, and it seems by the posters responses you haven't provided any evidence of what you're saying at all. If I'm wrong, please point me to the section where you lay out the evidence.

The last pages are people asking where the evidence is, with barely any response.

ETA: I really want to know. If there really is damning evidence this is happening it can only help you to rehash it here.


You read the first few and last few pages in 8 minutes? Did you go through any links? Did you find the govt doc I linked to? Do you know what PACER is?

It's a 41 page thread. Feel free to read through it....I don't plan to rehash here.

Actually it was a little less than 8 minutes.

I'm not going to spend time reading 40+ pages to find the nugget of truth you're claiming is in there, if you can't even seem to find it. It's your thread, you know where it is better than I do.

Why is it so hard to just link to the information proving you correct?





It's the whole thread. If you don't feel like reading it that's cool with me. I have no need to go back over 40 pages. If you have a specific instance you'd like to know then sure.

I'll link to the gov doc for you to read. It should clear a lot of this up. It is rather long but I'll quote my other post from Page 24 of that thread.

Study


originally posted by: Vasa Croe
Since folks keep wondering and pointing to whatever experts in law, here is the paper I pulled my numbers from.

This is a Federal Judicial Center study with numbers from 2006. Yes thats a few years back, but it should be pretty representative of the number of sealed indictments that happen in Federal court today.

Federal Study

Page 17 is the one to look at.



Out of 66,458 cases total in ALL Federal Courts, there were only 284 sealed indictments. This is coming from the actual source, not someone with any agenda or speaking without knowledge.



And that study is based on all federal courts nationwide...Not just one.
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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: The GUT
Hope porn is even better than doom porn. Who woulda thunk? I'm being serious here. I'm hoping!


HOPE PORN!!!

LOL that is freaking classic!

I am taking that my friend, what a perfect way to sum up Q/MegaAnon and the white hats fighting the darkness!!

All up in Hope Porn right now!!




posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Meg said that if you pay attention to which media outlets are freaking out over this, you'll know which ones not to trust, because he made them nervous. I believe her. I think it's very possible he's going to call them out somehow to where they can't squirm out of it. And I think they know it's coming, too.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:21 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

So there were only 284 sealed indictments in 2006.

12 years ago.

That's hardly an indication of how many there are today, especially with the current opiate and drug problem that wasn't ravaging the nation back in 2006. Sealed criminal indictments could be for anyone, for any crime. So that doesn't really mean anything.

I don't think the evidence I was looking for exists. Everyone constantly talks like there's obvious evidence that Trump is draining the swmap through these 10,000 indictments, but it isn't there. Reading further, I see now that this is just a right wing hope and dream, and as such, I won't clog up your thread asking for evidence that doesn't exist.


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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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One hand points to fake news media awards on Jan 17 - what is the other hand doing?

What is the sound of one hand clapping? Never mind...

A suggestion:


The Space Subcommittee of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee will hold a hearing on January 17, 2018 at 10:00 am ET in 2318 Rayburn House Office Building on “An Update on NASA Commercial Crew Systems Development.”  
HOUSE SS&T SBCMT HTG ON COMMERCIAL CREW, Jan 17, 2018, DC, 10:00 am ET


Since the 10k indictments were mentioned this might fit with something Mega Anon recently said:


MA: I know you have talked about some of the more outrageous disclosure stuff. There are plans in place to force this sort of thing to the surface.

One example would be a Mars mission. NASA will come out and say it will cost this much. Trump will counter and force them to do it for less.

Then they will have to explain why the sciences and tech they lied to everybody about will have to be utilized in order to make it happen at that price.

NASA is going to implode on itself, just like the Air Force and contractors like Lockheed. It’s also like the DNC investigating themselves.

NASA will end up doing their own disclosure.

First we will have to prove that the earth is not what we think it is.
Elon Musk is very involved in this, and has been in contact with top people.

Some of this involves Trump’s uncle. There is a lot more to that backstory.

Trump is going to say “Look how long they have been lying to you.”

They are going to try to say “We just found out about this.” They are trying to drive the media narrative.

David Wilcock New Article 12-25-17, Section II… “Mega Anon excerpts”
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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: dug88

originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: dug88

Partially my reasoning for my theory.

But either way they aren't telling anyone who to believe...they are pointing out false news accounts. I'd say that's the duty of the news organizations but they obviously don't do that.


By calling it false they are implying there is certain news that should and shouldn't be listened to. This isn't just anybody saying this, this is the leader of a government. The government is deciding what's real and what's fake. Sounds like some good old fashioned Soviet or Nazi style propaganda to me. Especially wrapping it up in a nice easily digestible, memorable 'award show' for the masses.


Trumps been around for a year. Are you suggesting he has more sway than MSM has had in the last 100 years.

Trouble is you have to have someone that has a large bullhorn to get a message across when you aren't holding your own people accountable for stories that may carry more than just the actual news.

This isn't anyone saying dontbwatch it or you can't watch it...it is someone calling out which ones report the facts without political motivation or agenda.....personally I believe it is a needed action as it appears most of the populace these days are prone to just regurgitating what they hear versus actually digging to see if true.


Forget that it's Trump specifically doing this. It is the president of the United States, telling people what news is real and not. It is a government officially telling you what news to believe or not believe. It doesn't matter if they're saying not to watch it or not. They are still telling you what to believe. Yes I believe the government has as much away as main stream media in influencing peoples decisions. The problem isn't that someone is calling out what's real or not. The problem is it's a government doing it. Other governments have already started using 'fake news' as an excuse to censor media. In this case they won't have to, everything not state sanctioned will be labelled as fake and people won't pay attention.

Sure it may start with obviously fake things or things you personally agree is fake. How long before 'fake news' is used as a cover to censor whatever the government doesn't want you to hear.

Whatever happened to people being able to read multiple sources and discern facts for themselves?



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Vasa Croe

So there were only 241 sealed indictments in 2006.

12 years ago.

That's hardly an indication of how many there are today, especially with the current opiate and drug problem that wasn't ravaging the nation back in 2006. Sealed criminal indictments could be for anyone, for any crime. So that doesn't really mean anything.

I don't think the evidence I was looking for exists. Everyone constantly talks like there's obvious evidence that Trump is draining the swmap through these 10,000 indictments, but it isn't there. Reading further, I see now that this is just a right wing hope and dream, and as such, I won't clog up you're thread asking for evidence that doesn't exist.



Didn't figure you'd take the time. Like I said...Not real concerned with rehashing something with someone that doesn't have time to read for themselves.



posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:27 PM
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originally posted by: elementalgrove

originally posted by: The GUT
Hope porn is even better than doom porn. Who woulda thunk? I'm being serious here. I'm hoping!


HOPE PORN!!!

LOL that is freaking classic!

I am taking that my friend, what a perfect way to sum up Q/MegaAnon and the white hats fighting the darkness!!

All up in Hope Porn right now!!



Well it beats doing nothing at all and let this vicious cycle continue unchecked. Sorry to break it to you but you're part of the problem. I could do it myself but nah i let others handle it is not an attitude we should aspire to and portray at all. Where has the spirit of ATS members gone that they refuse to do the legwork themselves? I read a lot of threads complaining about the lack of interesting threads but you all shun the Q phenomenon because it is not worth your time? I learned a lot just doing research on my own and discussing our findings. i don't know if it will amount to anything major but there is still hope that one day justice will prevail.
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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: Vasa Croe

So there were only 241 sealed indictments in 2006.

12 years ago.

That's hardly an indication of how many there are today, especially with the current opiate and drug problem that wasn't ravaging the nation back in 2006. Sealed criminal indictments could be for anyone, for any crime. So that doesn't really mean anything.

I don't think the evidence I was looking for exists. Everyone constantly talks like there's obvious evidence that Trump is draining the swmap through these 10,000 indictments, but it isn't there. Reading further, I see now that this is just a right wing hope and dream, and as such, I won't clog up you're thread asking for evidence that doesn't exist.



Didn't figure you'd take the time. Like I said...Not real concerned with rehashing something with someone that doesn't have time to read for themselves.

There's no "time to take", because the evidence doesn't exist. What are you saying I should spend time reading, your thread or the link you posted above?

I read the link you posted, and got to page 17 of your thread and there is no evidence whatsoever. Just people hoping that this has something to do with some super secret Trump plan.

If I'm wrong, please show me how. If anyone else can point it out for me, thank you as well. The OP doesn't seem to want to point to specifics.
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posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

It already has amounted to something major!

Q has basically united what we conspiracy theorists have already known and they have tuned an entire generation into asking the questions that we have understood.

I believe this Map sums it up!!




posted on Jan, 11 2018 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: YouSir

originally posted by: smurfy
Attempted brainwashing, Trump is farrrrrr....from being the arbiter of, 'real news' so anything he has to say about fake news is far less a poke, more of a joke.



Ummm...C'mon little blue dude...you need to get with the program...

Trump tweets are...all...about humor...
This past almost two years has been hilarious...It's been one long reality show episode...
But the joke...and...punchline has been the left of the spectrum...

Take a step back and laugh...it's the best medicine for whatever it is that ails you...



YouSir

Well,
Your right, everything he does is a joke, however he's not funny. But I'll let you hold on to your fantasy of Trump having fun...come to think of it, not a fantasy, more like desperate belief in an abject failure...but don't tell the Breitbartarians, it'll break their hearts.
BTW, I don't need any medicine, I don't like seeing people fooled by a disgusting conman come thief.




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