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Catherine Deneuve Says Men Should Be "Free To Hit On" Women

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posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

trust me I'm no lefty (I'm a real classical Liberal read Jefferson) but I empathize and I would consider his attitude victim blaming




posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 10:41 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
besides, his position in society, it probably wouldn't be a good idea....


I call horse crap. The "but their position in the community!" excuse is damn old, and destroys the credibility of the accuser. If there's a problem, be a big girl & let the law sort it out -- don't let bad stuff happen to other girls because "but his position in the community!"

However, since you went with that excuse, my money's on there being no problem in the first place and you're just trying to win an argument feminist-style.



posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 10:42 PM
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ya, I know....
just like I know that we all could dress in afghani burkas and the rapists would still rape...



posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 10:51 PM
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a reply to: Nyiah

no, but it is a problem I can handle myself and I usually don't go running to authorities needlessly....
and, I also ain't that keen to the idea of blowing a high ranking career military person out of the water needlessly when he is that close to retirement!! my god people, I aint a cold hearted bitch, I just want to be left alone!!!

there's a vast very vast difference between being asked on dates and not taking no for an answer and being pinned to a wall to be forcibly kissed or have your butt grabbed, or whatever. I would react much stronger to the latter.

by the way, you can call it what you want.... don't matter to me.





edit on 9-1-2018 by dawnstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Krakatoa

first it's my understanding that the money that some of these women received were for them to have additional security because they were getting death threats?? and second, prove to me that all the allegations were false!!

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I see. SO you are of the mindset that everyone is guilty and must prove their innocence? Sorry, but that is not how it works. The one making the claim MUST prove their allegations. The accused has zero responsibility to prove innocence in this country.

Spoken like a true radical feminist.

Now I understand your position much better. Thanks for shining the light on that for us all to see.

You, are part of the problem....not part of the solution it seems.



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posted on Jan, 9 2018 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: Sheye

Thanks for the kind remarks. I do so people start dating again-and I don't mean on their phone or internet.

Time to get brave and actually, physically meet each other. Learn manners towards the other sex and use them. It will mean alot.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 06:35 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

I speak to alot of women about feminism and quite alot of them are confused or fed up with the movement and the way they are making out all women think this way!

My fiance ' dislikes the feminist movement and the PC world we live in

in Glasgow a girl I know has been the PR for the subclub for so many years now and brought some great acts to the subclub
and this girl who is a refugee comes to glasgow and starts making liberal demands of the sub club to introduce safe spaces!

and has basically forced my friend to retire because its just too much for her to deal with online . social media, in real life people were harassing her . She was the reason so many people of colour and female DJ''s played the sub club , and also the better door staff etc !

clubs are notorious for wild behaviour and are definitely not a safe space in any sense!
creeps are everywhere but where is the fun in a sterile "safe space" club , no one would go !

I am quite utterly convinced that the government has done this with PC culture to the point where the club culture is being attacked by the left , brought on by government agenda to stop humans from socialising together in order to remove one of the last great bastions of freedom from government . Club culture has always been a thorn in the side of the UK government and I truly believe they have an agenda to shut it down. Or at least make it so difficult for people to get along in clubs they just dont go.

But despite my theory , clubbing is entirely safe as it always goes underground to rebuild and strengthen when # hits the fan!

Just my thoughts on this , not all women are the same despite their sisterhood , many females fight for males and our sexuality and their sexuality as well .
Many women disagree with feminism movements the world over.

Many will keep quiet for fear of social exile or social suicide



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: shawmanfromny


yeah yeah. I know how that sounds. If they aren't doing anything wrong they have nothing to fear.


Except the problem is they do now. It seems no expressing interest is enough to ruin your life.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ketsuko

rape is a crime, really, it is?? couldn't tell that looking all those rape kits sitting around waiting to be processed!!!
hey I know, women can just start wearing super tight jeans, because according to one crazy italian judge, you can't be raped wearing super tight jeans.
I have no problem accepting my responsibility... but acknowledging that responsibility never protected me from finding myself having to occasionally making a night time run on foot to the store, or having to walk down the lone country road if the car broke down. it just makes me wonder, if something had happened during those times, which it almost did once.... would I be listening to lectures about me being personally responsible when quite frankly, my kid's needs were also my responsibility!!
and, I have to wonder, just who is dumber and not fully aware of their personal responsibility, the women who happens to pass out at a party, or the man who decides it's such a brilliant idea to plant their seed into the passed out women... and, there is no indication in the story that was told about the passed out girl that she was filing any rape charges, matter of fact, she says it was a great party!!! so, well, she finds out she is pregnant, asks around finds out who the assaulter was and low and behold, nine months from now he gets a court order for a paternity test and hello child support nightmare!!! after all, once the baby is in the picture, he's more valuable out of jail than in, isn't he???



This thread may have stopped by now,but I just logged back on and found this. I wrote the great party post. I called my daughter and got more information about this young woman. First, no she has not, nor has any plans to file charges for anything. Second it seems this woman is no, so called, lady. By her own addmition her idea of a good time is to buy a 6 pack and stand in front of the store drinking it waiting for some cute guy to bang (Her words). As far as I know she is not a hooker, she just really likes guys. Now I'm not saying what happened at the party was right, or legal, only that in this case it seems this woman doesn't care who she sleeps with. Now I know it would be easy to condemn her for this but I have to ask, Would we feel the same way if it were a guy doing the same thing? I think not. She's a slut, and shunned, he's a player and celebrated.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Yeah.

That's part of what I was getting at.

It's getting to the point that some men don't even want to risk being accused of anything.

And adopting a policy of never being alone with a woman.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: grey580

And it's crazy because women do the same thing. Guy walks by the girls look one says look at the buns on him they laugh and it's normal. Girl walks by and guy says did you see those Tata and they're pigs and he needs his life ruined.

Not to be confused with actual sexual misconduct like rape where I think the guy should have his life ended.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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Member when it used to just be a edgy rave song....



I would link original vid but it is NSFW....
edit on 10-1-2018 by GuidedKill because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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Some of the women are obviously liars but Hollywood is so full of hypocrisy.It is ok to flirt with women but watch out guys.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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A guy goes to a bar and gets drunk. A girl goes to a bar and gets drunk. They wake up the next morning in bed together. The law says he raped her because SHE was drunk, and so, unable to consent. I would ask why? Could it not also be that SHE raped HIM for the same reason? (Yes men can and have been raped.) And I guess if you want you could take that a step further. A 16 year old girl swipes her sisters ID, puts on her best come get outfit and goes clubbing. She ends up in some guys bed. Again the law says not only rape, but rape of a child. So now the public calls him a pedophile. Should he not have at least the protection to assume that a girl drinking in a bar is over 21. The ID in her pocket says she is. When did it became HIS job to do an ID check, or get a pre-drink consent form? NO I'M NOT SAYING DATE RAPE, OR DRUGGING SOMEONE, IS NOT REAL SO PLEASE DON'T GO THERE. What I'm ASKING is very simple. The law says you're an adult at 18, and are held responsible for your own actions. Getting drunk should not change that.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I would like to comment on this.

And let's put this into perspective.

The scenario you gave there is something I've seen before. And that sort of thing is light bantering. We've all done it.

But there's a difference between that and the sort of inappropriate comments that seem intimidating. Comments that make a woman fearful that she could be hurt.

Imagine you're a 150lb guy in prison. And some 250lb inmate is telling you that you have a, "sweet ass". While you're alone in the shower. The intimidation factor in that encounter is through the roof! And that's what a lot of women feel on a daily basis.

So while I see your point, you have to see theirs as well.
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posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 12:00 PM
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a reply to: MikeA

This is why we can't have nice things.

Those laws are there because some asshole plied a woman with so much alcohol she passed out or was inebriated and unable to resist. Then that guy did whatever he wanted.

Now I will agree that the law should allow for some context. If you were deceived by someone. There should be some recourse.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Jobeycool

like dave chappelle said , if you replace harvey weinstein with brad pitt , then those girls are walking out of that audition screaming with joy " I got the part"

Have you seen chappelles recent comedy show on the whole hollywood issue of male sexual assault and her does make some really good points . Worth a watch anyways

and for the record i dont condone any of that type of behaviour absolutely sickening to think that people do take advantage like that and should be punished accordingly



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I would like to comment on this.

And let's put this into perspective.

The scenario you gave there is something I've seen before. And that sort of thing is light bantering. We've all done it.

But there's a difference between that and the sort of inappropriate comments that seem intimidating. Comments that make a woman fearful that she could be hurt.

Imagine you're a 150lb guy in prison. And some 250lb inmate is telling you that you have a, "sweet ass". While you're alone in the shower. The intimidation factor in that encounter is through the roof! And that's what a lot of women feel on a daily basis.

So while I see your point, you have to see theirs as well.

I can see your point here. I think the problem might be what is "light bantering"? Your idea of this and hers might be different. Your prison example would be bad by anyone's definition, except maybe the star quarterback who thinks he's entitled. That clown may be wrong, but at the same time he's a result of training. Not the training on the field but off. All his life he's been treated like he's special. At what point does it became his action and not his life long conditioning?



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: MikeA

I think we can firmly say it all boils down to, "is this person uncomfortable".

But that can cover a huge range. It's not easy to determine. Though I'd say that if someone looks visibly uncomfortable. Then maybe the banter should stop.



posted on Jan, 10 2018 @ 12:54 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: MikeA

I think we can firmly say it all boils down to, "is this person uncomfortable".

But that can cover a huge range. It's not easy to determine. Though I'd say that if someone looks visibly uncomfortable. Then maybe the banter should stop.

That's a good point. In my day if I tried to flirt with a girl and she smiled, and turned away, not returning the favor, so to speak. I "might" try again later once or twice, but if she responded the same way I knew to stop. Today however, she/he might respond then stab you in the back with a lawsuit. Not because they were uncomfortable, but because they can get paid. Man I'm so glad to be past that age. It's probably the only thing that makes me happy to be old







 
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