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Just because I'm a socialist and I believe in individual rights of all people.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: introvert
And it's bickering and stereotyping like this that will keep the one party alive and strong.
You want socialism? That costs money, and you'll have to convince Republicans and Democrats to stop these failing wars abroad and domestic before we can humor such programs.
Fat chance when people view their neighbors as enemies.... We'll have to find things to agree on if you want any kind of change.
These two values are in direct conflict with each other. It is impossible to believe in individual rights while embracing a political philosophy which rejects the rights of personal ownership, including of property, one's own earnings, and even the personal right to succeed or fail on your own merits. I don't think you're a deplorable person, I think you're confused and insensible.
originally posted by: introvert
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: introvert
And it's bickering and stereotyping like this that will keep the one party alive and strong.
You want socialism? That costs money, and you'll have to convince Republicans and Democrats to stop these failing wars abroad and domestic before we can humor such programs.
Fat chance when people view their neighbors as enemies.... We'll have to find things to agree on if you want any kind of change.
I agree for the most part.
Though, I can still think my neighbor is an idiot asshole without thinking he is my enemy.
originally posted by: introvert
I suppose you would be correct if you believe I think we need socialism to the degree in which you describe. I do not believe that whatsoever. There are different levels and ideas on how socialism could be implemented within a system that protects the rights of the individual.
This is not the 50's and 60's and the definitions of those eras do not necessarily apply to certain ideologies today.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: introvert
I suppose you would be correct if you believe I think we need socialism to the degree in which you describe. I do not believe that whatsoever. There are different levels and ideas on how socialism could be implemented within a system that protects the rights of the individual.
This is not the 50's and 60's and the definitions of those eras do not necessarily apply to certain ideologies today.
There is absolutely no form of socialism which doesn't predicate itself on some manner of taking earnings and the right to succeed or fail on your own merits away from one group to redistribute to a different group alongside threats of force to ensure compliance. If you happen to know of some manner of socialism which doesn't involve that, then please, educate us and share your insight.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Im shocked you are confusing justice for hate.
originally posted by: smurfy
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
Im shocked you are confusing justice for hate.
Well, you obviously don't know what Trump really is, so how would you know what real justice is?
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
On what planet does Obamacare touch that????
In what reality is that the bigger sin?!?!
There is absolutely no form of socialism which doesn't predicate itself on some manner of taking earnings and the right to succeed or fail on your own merits away from one group to redistribute to a different group alongside threats of force to ensure compliance.
THEN HE GAVE THE REBUILD CONTRACT TO HOS OWN PRIVATE COMPANY..
On what planet does Obamacare touch that????
In what reality is that the bigger sin?!?!
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: JoshuaCox
Oh look, one of the videos proving John McCain was part of a rigged election...
McCain ran that campaign like a man who had zero intention of winning the vote. That's not honorable, that's called being a shill and very, very few modern politicians have made as successful a career out of whoring themselves to the opposition than John Sydney McCain.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: MotherMayEye
A) did this 20 years predate ATS???
B) since ATS , did you ever accuse a rep. For misagony againt a dem???