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You absolutely misread that.
like that time you disproved it right here on ATS with this amazing thread:
Seeing as how this is on the internet, it means it came well after you already learned everything you need to know.
Except until I noticed you made a very serious error in that math, which immediately debunked the whole thread flat on its face. Curious how you never even responded to that, just let it die real quick, and disappeared from these forums for, what – a few years? It’s a shame too because I realized later my debunking was actually wrong, since it used numbers from your OP that were also wrong. Evidently the numbers do lie, after all. In any case some recalculations with all the wrongs ironed out proved the whole thing as debunked as ever.
Anyway now you’re back, talking over people and mansplaining how much better your science is than theirs. Me thinks your math still doesn’t add up.
Are we producing those other gasses at the same rate as CO2???
are those gasses being traded or swapped out for the CO2 we are producing???
are those other heat holding gases being ADDED TO the CO2 we are producing??
The fact that “methane is worse” is ridiculous because we are not producing loads upon loads of metane AND THE METANE IS I ADDITION TO NOT INSTEAD OF!!!
CO2 catches the suns heat..
It has got to feel good to know that you and the 4 scientists on the payroll of opec are JUST SOOO much smarter than EVERYONE else..
Oil causes death and destruction. Saudi Arabia uses dirty oil money to buy planes and bombs and massacre Yemenis.
I learned everything I need to know to disprove the assumptions surrounding Global Warming theory before there WAS an Internet.
originally posted by: mc_squared
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Hypothetically, there is a payout if a carbon tax is ever passed
This isn't even particularly true. Where I live, British Columbia - one of the only places that actually has a carbon tax - it is revenue neutral. Meaning whatever we pay into it at the pump we get given back to us in the form of lower income taxes, rebates, etc. Nobody makes a dime off it - it is simply there as a deterrent from spending our money on bad things, and using it on better choices instead.
But this point doesn't fit the "they're out to get my monies!" right wing narrative, so it just gets ignored in the debate (like most of the actual facts).
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: amfirst1
The US is already 20 trillion in debt. If they could take over based on debt then what are they waiting for?
originally posted by: ParasuvO
originally posted by: mc_squared
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
Hypothetically, there is a payout if a carbon tax is ever passed
This isn't even particularly true. Where I live, British Columbia - one of the only places that actually has a carbon tax - it is revenue neutral. Meaning whatever we pay into it at the pump we get given back to us in the form of lower income taxes, rebates, etc. Nobody makes a dime off it - it is simply there as a deterrent from spending our money on bad things, and using it on better choices instead.
But this point doesn't fit the "they're out to get my monies!" right wing narrative, so it just gets ignored in the debate (like most of the actual facts).
Are you trying to be funny?
Noone could ever prove the leftist mantra of "revenue neutral" carbon tax in BC.
We are taxed to death in BC and noone but liberals believe anything here is neutral...hell even the NDP AND GREENS WILL LAUGH AT THIS.
Every dollar generated by the carbon tax is returned to British Columbians through reductions in other taxes. These include:
A reduction of 5 percent in the first two personal income tax rates
A low income climate action tax credit
A northern and rural homeowner benefit of up to $200
Reductions in the general corporate income tax rate
Reductions in the small business corporate income tax rate
An industrial property tax credit
Between 2008/09 and 2015/16, the carbon tax generated about $7.3 billion and provided offsetting tax reductions of about $8.9 billion, bringing an estimated net benefit to B.C. taxpayers of $1.6 billion. These revenues and reductions are reported yearly in the Revenue Neutral Carbon Tax Plans and Reports.
On the last page you bragged
...
To which I directed you to your own ATS thread on the internet, aka chronologically after you’ve supposedly learned “everything” you need to know
I learned everything I need to know to disprove the assumptions surrounding Global Warming theory before there WAS an Internet.
posted on Dec, 1 2009 @ 14:48
Do you understand that your “proof” is completely bunk because nobody has ever claimed global warming would raise the temperature of the entire ocean by 1 degree? Not even close.
So do you understand how absurd that thought even is
Finally – do you understand this means you clearly don’t understand this stuff, from which it follows that you absolutely do not “know everything you need to know”?
you keep pontificating here how climate scientists don’t know how to model.
originally posted by: Harpua
Is anyone here able to adequately describe the thinking around why climate change ISN'T occurring and why the VAST majority of scientists say it is?
Since the OP and the follow up posts don't seem to adequately encapsulate a solid argument, I am honestly curious if there is a solid argument coming from the deniers.
It holds heat WHERE...no experiments on the ground can replicate the atmosphere despite all of the bleatings.
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: TheRedneck
No definitive proof?!?!!
CO2 holds heat..
We are producing a butt load of CO2..
So where is the heat and CO2 going???
Obviously that isn’t hard math..
So what mechanism do you propose that will remove the excess heat from the excess CO2????
That is why 95% of scientists agree..
It is easy math.
Now, what the effects will be and how long it will take to see the effects is 100% fairly debated..
However, climate deniers are claiming the whole thing is a fraud..
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: mc_squared
Oh, so the surface will warm but somehow conduction will not occur... got it.
You really should publish a paper on that... ocean water is so great a thermal insulator that it will conduct NO heat energy over a time span of decades... I think I'm going to go get some plastic bags and fill them with seawater instead of using that inferior fiber insulation in my house. Just think... zero heat loss!
Oh, and the ocean currents are going to be restricted so no convection takes place either. Got it.
Sunlight provides a lot of heat to the uppermost layers of the ocean in areas outside the polar regions. The warming sunlight only penetrates to depths of a few tens of meters. Sea surface temperatures range from slightly below freezing near the poles to an annual average near 30° C in the tropics. Wind-driven surface waves and the tides stir the surface layer so the heat is distributed throughout the top few hundred meters of ocean water. Since the surface layer is exposed to the atmosphere, a warming atmosphere can transfer heat to the upper layers of the ocean.
The deeper ocean, which contains about 90% of all ocean water, does not mingle much with the surface layers. Water temperatures in the deep ocean are only between about 0° C and 4° C, and are nearly uniform throughout the world's oceans. Between the surface and deep ocean is a sharp transition between warmer surface called the thermocline at a depth of about a few hundred meters.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: mc_squared
So you claim the government tells the truth on this and likely every topic that tells you what you want to hear.
Let us see the tax returns.....
originally posted by: YommieG
The amount of heat on Earth depends on 2 factors, the Sun and Earth's albedo. If one or both of these factors change, Earth's heat changes. More CO2 means air absorbs more heat and surface absorbs less heat. Less CO2 means air absorbs less heat and surface absorbs more heat. Earth itself does not make heat. The Sun is the source of heat. Earth absorbs heat or reflects heat.