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originally posted by: Hyperboles
a reply to: Willtell
What are they upto?
Pretty simple to keep the UAP / UFO status quo .
Einsteins GR has endured more than a century of status quo and anything that challenges that status quo will be perpetual.
So no disclosure is never gonna happen
originally posted by: pigsy2400
originally posted by: Willtell
Something is going on.
The press attitude is the key here.
Somethings up, no pun intended
Hey Will, this is something I have noticed that you reiterated on numerous occassions in this thread as have others. Its something that is bizzare consdiering their previous attitudes. As always, I would love to know , as I am sure we all would....why?
What is the agenda here ...
originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: Willtell
I found it very shallow, mostly pandering to the believers. Giving them "reasons" to keep believing.
originally posted by: Willtell
originally posted by: moebius
a reply to: Willtell
I found it very shallow, mostly pandering to the believers. Giving them "reasons" to keep believing.
Look, IF they are going to disclose anything, it won’t be initially earth shattering simply because the whole, or most of humanity, are not esoteric UFO mavens like we here are.
At least they have the good sense of doing it slowly IF they do it or are doing it.
originally posted by: ParticleNode
It seems the "general" consensus among posters in this thread is that the ETH/IDH explanation is no longer valid (at least as a unified theory) and that the phenomena is attuned to consciousness rather than physical manifestation. For those who fall into that camp - what are your thoughts about psychotropics such as Ayahuasca, N,N-Dimethyltryptamine, etc? Do you feel these substances offer a gateway to the "other" (so-to-speak) or are they simply chemical distractions that muddy the water?
I ask because it appears the phenomena is extremely subjective and one's personal "woo" defines the experience; the observer is also the observed. Affect consciousness and you affect the experience.
originally posted by: RobertSheaffer
a reply to: 1ofthe9
"I mean...this in Nymag? Where the hell is the science editor? Why are bringing SETI into this? I know Delonge was hanging around them (why would they associate with him?)... the science mags are going to freak. "
Yes, this article is grossly irresponsible. "The Government Literally Just Admitted It’s Taking UFOs Seriously"?? No, it didn't. A rich UFO believer got his bought-and-paid-for senator to throw a little government pork his way to study UFOs.
UFOs have nothing to do with SETI, and habitable planets that might exist many light years away have nothing to do with reports of UFOs.
originally posted by: TheMadScientist2
Here is a recent interview with Harry Reid, he mentions his connections to Bigelow:
nymag.com...
It seems the "general" consensus among posters in this thread is that the ETH/IDH explanation is no longer valid (at least as a unified theory) and that the phenomena is attuned to consciousness rather than physical manifestation.
Overall, the evidence suggests that animal mutilations are a long-term, covert, prion disease sampling operation by unknown perpetrators who are aware of a substantial contamination of the beef and venison food supply. Although this paper presents evidence in favor of a motive for animal mutilations, there is still insufficient evidence to identify the perpetrators.............. The primary conclusion of this paper is that the animal mutilation epidemic of 1970-2003 was and is a monitoring operation for an infectious agent that is spreading through the human food chain..
Source : NIDS
As you’ve heard from a few people since this story came out, Luis Elizondo, for example, he quit, because they wouldn’t do anything seriously. He was terribly interested in this. They’re all mad because the federal government has done nothing. The guy that came to me, his job was in jeopardy because he tried to do something he felt was appropriate......
I read somewhere, and I don’t know if this is really true at all, that you talked to President Clinton about aerial phenomenon and UFOs during his presidency.
Yes, I did. I did do that. Of course, you could talk to Bill Clinton about oranges. He had such an overwhelming curiosity that he would talk to you about oranges. This was a very passing conversation, but he was interested, of course. That’s just who he was. As you know, one of his No. 1 staffers, John Podesta, who worked for him at Walmart, has publicly supported all this stuff
You were never briefed?
That’s not my style, nope.
You just weren’t, in terms of reading the reports that they compiled or visiting the facilities?
Let me give you something that the press has totally failed and conjured. We have hundreds and hundreds of papers, pages of paper, that have been available since this was completed. Most all of it, 80 percent at least, is public. You know something? The press has never even looked at it. Not once. That’s where we are. I wanted it public, it was made public, and you guys have not even looked at it....
So, in short, it’s my belief you guys kind of want to be spoon-fed. You don’t want to do any work on your own.