Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

yeah I had a narcissist for a dad too. abusive also. I can identify. you're actually very likable outside this particular topic which we frequently debate on.

so back on topic, with the delong issue I think it's a giant false herring and a scam as do a good majority of the folks who looked into it with a astute pair of eyes.

the question is what are they trying to throw the public off the trail of. and why do it now?

is it just time for another dose of BS on schedule to manage public perception and awareness? folks getting too close to the truth recently and this is a rushed campaign of disinfo? or just a wild idea that someone came up with to attempt a benewitz 2.0 and somehow got approval? a agency social experiment to get metrics on just how malleable the public is for if they try this strategy of disinfo again in the future?

all i know is that this one was a botched job.

what do you think the reasoning could be?

a reply to: Willtell

One very sincere question for you?

I'm serious.

What deep resentment are you talking about?

I'm aware that I carry a deep resentment about Christianity, as it has destroyed
much of what was beautiful and true in the world...and was a sham from day one..
killed my grandma's family... and my families family.. while pretending to be "good".

If that's the resentment you are talking about... then GUILTY AS CHARGED.
I really dislike Hitler too, another war criminal.

So hopefully that's the resentment you are speaking of... I'm not aware of any
other resentment.

now is that resentment healthy for me?

I imagine not.

I'm an imperfect being.

Kev

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I imagine that I'm a royal pain in the behind on the topics of ufos, religion,
spirituality and metaphysics. But then again.. the shaman was forced to live
outside of polite society.. they couldn't take him either..

but I'll tell you, I've had QUITE A FEW ATS'ers come to me when they get in
real trouble.. and I have done my best to rescue them.. as much as I could..
yes.. even christians.. I've helped christians just as much as anyone.

Now as to your question..

I think the following about our hotdog boys/girls:

1) This was supposed to roll out with Hilary, not Trump.. it was half or more political.
(Juki was so right on that).

2) There are some true believers with private agendas, such as Bigelow and especially
H.P.

3) The "ex I.C. folks have SOME agenda.. not sure what..

but in summary?

I think they are all scrambling.. following their inner natures... in a random manner
trying to do DAMAGE CONTROL, because Hillary didn't get elected president.

That' the real thing to keep in mind...

IMHO

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear


You know I was on a forum once and some Buddhists were mad at these people. Some cult who followed some guy they all hated.

They really hated them and every chance they got they harangued them. They abused these poor people something fierce. The folks just wanted to spread their understanding.

One time though the cultists got angry, and I mean angry. The abuse had gotten very foul and they finally recoiled against the abuse. It was shocking! I could not repeat the words they said. And since I had no dog in that fight, I just watched and listened. It got so animalistic and was so bad that if these people were in some kind of physical proximity they would have tried to kill each other. I mean this angst came through the cyber network as real as anything. I mean it was ugly!

I mean I’ve been in physical fights and know violence but this was actually worst. The ugliest thing I ever heard!

Even though I might have agreed with the traditionalist, I finally took sides because such abuse on the cultists had precipitated the madness and went too far.

I thought I was a tough guy, verbal gun slinger, I was, but after that it kind of changed me.

It taught me a little compassion and empathy and ever since I could see it when it was needed even through the words on a computer

And I learned probably my greatest lesson.

That is that transformation is the greatest magic.



My friend, I would never insult you, all I can do is hold up a mirror

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

if i were running a disinfo op. I'd get a band of seemingly credible folks believing in isoteric out there stuff to do the work for me. knowing the public's appeal to authority tendencies will take care of the rest.

a reply to: Willtell

Thank you for sharing that...

you are so sincere, it made my heart all tingly.

thank you.

I respect Buddhists more than most.. but yes.. they are as territorial
as anyone... temples go on slaughter fests against other temples.

My wife talks to me about this quite frequently.. she wants me to soften
up on chritiantiy.. as i"m only hurting myself.. I know it... I said that I am
imperfect.

She says that modern christians aren't so evil as earlier ones were.. that
in fact most christians are so ignorant.. they scarcely know anything
about their religion.. they have no idea that there is more blood on
christianities hands than hitlers.

Then I say that is no excuse.. that if someone was once a serial pedophile
killer.. that just because they currently have given that up.. that they
now have the right to be "good".... to not learn from the past at all..
to not apologize.. not give the stolen lands back.. to claim to speak
for god.. when their behavior was so evil and still is often quite
"evil", in the big picture.. not necessarily individual, usually
misinformed about history christians tho.. they may well be
innocent.

I do weigh myself down with this.. it's my single worst fault.

Feel free to show me that mirror any time you like young man.

kev

Sure...

but what OP is being run?

Earlier OPS to confuse Russia made sense..

to provide cover for experimental aircraft.. sure.... but I don't buy that this is
part of that.

To practice mind control.. sure... but i don't buy that this is part of that..

Things have changed now that the old cold war is over..

what is the "new cold war" in your opinion?

Kev

imho this could be going after China.

originally posted by: 1ofthe9
imho this could be going after China.

US policy towards China is pathetic.

They are probably the last world power... and there's nothing the US
can do about that..

In your opinion, how does promoting false information about UFO's,
while some internal true believes are working on what MIGHT be
true..

How is china involved with that?

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

what if aliens really have secretly taken over the white house. reptiliod shapeshifters good at deception and they realize that the best way to fool the public is to throw the truth out there right under everyone's noses by using Tom delong et al knowing that they'll come across so ridiculous that the public will vehemently discredit the truth and believe anything but that. confidently moving forward knowing their secret iis safe.

upon analyzing our current political climate, the state of our beleaguered bewildered populace, and the prevailing theories presented, I feel its the only one that makes sense.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Forget Buddhists, they could have been any religion.

Understanding my friend is the first step

Anyway, perhaps we should get back to the OP.
We shouldn’t diss mm’s outstanding op with this other stuff

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear

originally posted by: 1ofthe9
imho this could be going after China.

US policy towards China is pathetic.

They are probably the last world power... and there's nothing the US
can do about that..

In your opinion, how does promoting false information about UFO's,
while some internal true believes are working on what MIGHT be
true..

How is china involved with that?

Kev

Mostly the IP theft stuff. They already went after the EMdrive stuff, so feed em stuff about warp drive and wormholes, have them spend time and money chasing FLIR blobs.

I know it isn't a perfect solution...I agree with you that this is multifaceted.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

what if aliens really have secretly taken over the white house. reptiliod shapeshifters good at deception and they realize that the best way to fool the public is to throw the truth out there right under everyone's noses by using Tom delong et al knowing that they'll come across so ridiculous that the public will vehemently discredit the truth and believe anything but that. confidently moving forward knowing their secret iis safe.

upon analyzing our current political climate, the state of our beleaguered bewildered populace, and the prevailing theories presented, I feel its the only one that makes sense.

I'd have said "Impossible!"

but with Trump, I can't quite say that.

Now.. I do sincerely believe that Trump reports at least weekly to Putin.. as Putin
seems to know trumps schedule and what he's supposed to be doing better than
anyone else. for example Putin didn't want Mitt Romney for Secretary of State..

but guess what? Matt Tillerson was awarded Russian's highest honor to a foreigner..
when he was CEO of Exxon.

Next thing you know.. he's secretary of state! HMMM. A pure accident.

I know that you were being funny... but nope.. we don't need to invenet
reptialians to explain Trump.

Money laundering.. underage girls in Russia and Putin explain him quite
satisfactorily.

"Allegedly".

Kev

a reply to: 1ofthe9

yes, china sucked us dry on IP.

I suppose that it could be a factor..

But china's not foolish... I don't think that they'd
fall for it..

I respect those folks who study 100 hours per week
obsessively.. (and they all know Kung fu too!
Just kidding).

I don't think that they would fall for it.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

my theory makes even more sense if Putin's a reptilian too. first england, then Russia as a warm up for the big conquest the usa. also my theory rolls over to them using David icke knowing we'd never believe him either. we"re such fools. face it they've outsmarted us in an endgame scenario.

a reply to: 1ofthe9

I suggest that if we want to know what TDL and crew are up to,
we should ask China!

thehackernews.com...

Even big brains like H.P is probably lame on information security..

(it's part of my day job).

Kev

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Well I have to admit that telling the total truth can be the most
effective lie of all!

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

yep

a reply to: mirageman

"Skinwalker Paranormal Theme Park...

Any information on whether they've sorted out a hotdog vendor? "

Not sure yet, but I understand that John Podesta - Hillary's campaign manager and a big UFO proponent - might be a strong contender.

https://__._/podesta-emails/emailid/30231 [Domain is wikileaks dot org]

"Hope you're doing ok. I'm dreaming about your hotdog stand in Hawaii..."

(Some conspiracy theorists see this as a sexual code).

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I recently saw a lecture where it was stated that long term depression and heavy spirituality have the same effect on the brain resulting in a bigger/thicker cortex and also have a measurable impact on brain waves in the alpha spectrum.

I wished the video went a bit deeper into this.

My current take is, to visualise it in a very stupid way, we humans aren't 'hot pluggable' and for something to connect/infect there is need for a 'soft reset' which can be achieved in multiple ways ... or the connection needs to be made from the beginning. Only then our (un)conscious mind stops seeing even the unperceivable as something external. This is fascinating stuff imo.

Whether or not the effect on our body is a cause, effect, help or none of it is still one of the gaps.