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originally posted by: Kevin2024
It is interesting however, that all this "stuff" is coming closer to the surface of conventional media
than I ever thought it would.
Did you read Russell Targ's amazon review of the book "Phenomenon", where he disputes quite a bit?
As for the Ambient Monitoring Project...might be some overlap there with the aforementioned wormhole detection equipment.
AMP originally stood for Abduction Monitoring Project, but after the early days of dealing with equipment and parts
suppliers, we changed the name and noticed that we got better service and more serious attention when we used the word Ambient instead of Abduction.....
The intention of the project was to place a data collecting sensor system in the homes of repeat abduction experiencers...
For five years the UFO Research Coalition actively operated the project with basically two years devoted to
instrument development and three years devoted to data collection....
During the entire study, the subjects in their homes kept a daily journal of their abduction experiences, if any should
When all of the data had been collected for all of the cases, the data and the journals were to be compared by other third party researchers and a final report for the project written. The data is being analyzed now by Dr. Steve Crunk,
of the Department of Mathematics at San Jose State University.
....during a May, 2011, discussion that took place on the Reality Uncovered forum, Deuley [Tom Deuley , MUFON Director, former US Navy Lt. Cmdr and I don't have to write An Essay here ]wrote, “The AMP group is still in search of a qualified statistician and the funds necessary to have the data analyzed.”
When asked about such issues and discrepancies, including specifically how the AMP was funded and where the funds originated, Deuley failed to reply...
Contradicting statements and lack of responses to reasonable questions became the norm from organization leaders and pertaining to the AMP. Depending on who you asked and when you asked them.....
The project understandably ignited considerable public interest ...The ultimate lack of data analysis was met with a great deal of disappointment. Various efforts were initiated by interested members of the public to coordinate the raising of funds to assist with completion of the project. Efforts were also undertaken to obtain the data in order to submit it for qualified analysis. I am unaware of any successes in these areas, and, to the best of my knowledge, all interested parties eventually resigned themselves to the conclusion that, for whatever reasons, the AMP would not be completed or passed to others for completion......
And here's what I'm getting at with the Bigelow bit: I'm not entirely clear on how a guy can keep bringing spoiled potato salad to the pot luck yet keep getting invited back. Bigelow was involved in derailing MUFON's research of alien abduction via the Carpenter Affair; he aligned with FUFOR before what were reported as differences in control of URC caused a complete break; and MUFON then gave him a stamp of approval as big man on campus for what turned into the STAR Team fiasco - all of which was enabled by many of the same men who sat front and center for the entire chain of events. They simultaneously sat on multiple boards and were founding members of the organizations involved, yet continued to dance with Bigelow as if they were unaware that doing so tended to become problematic. Not entirely clear on all that. ...
Please consider an aspect of the historical relationship between the intelligence community and nonprofit organizations. There is a long and well documented history of IC manipulation of the funding process and the resulting covert distribution of funds for classified purposes....
I have a couple of points here, please. Thanks for sticking with me.
One, it would certainly seem that if:
a) current and former employees of intelligence agencies, people who hold security clearances and such, decided to get together to investigate UFOs in unofficial capacities, and they
b) sit on boards of directors of multiple nonprofit corporations simultaneously, and they
c) form and incorporate more UFO-related nonprofit organizations for whatever reasons, then:
They should fully expect to practice transparency to absolutely exemplary extents. Wouldn't one think they should understand the public concerns?
They would seemingly accept full responsibility, given the range of circumstances and the natures of the UFO and intelligence communities, for even overcompensating and offering transparency and public accountability above and beyond industry standards. Such would be the case, it would seem, if they had any interests in fostering trust, establishing credibility and cultivating an environment conducive to best practices.
If they do not look at the circumstances in those manners, and they do not understand such situations to be the case, and they instead practice a lack of public accountability, then might we not reasonably ask what's the matter with them? Are they stupid? Do they enjoy instigating conspiracy theories about themselves and their organizations?
The second point is that I don't claim to know what happened to the AMP....
Source : UFO Trail 2014
Dr Green - "In a country that has a large, educated population there is a large subset of individuals who suffer from what's called paraphrenia. Paraphrenia is a form of mental illness that doesn't interfere with your everyday life. It means that you can have a delusion and not be crazy, a delusion that you can confine and control. Many of us have one corner of the mind that is delusional - I bet you that I do.
'I might, for example, be religious - I'm an Episcopalian, though as such, I am protected from diagnosis, as are all the UFO buffs, because a large social structure of shared beliefs, like a religion, cannot be a delusion. So all those people who believe that they are being beamed at by the government can no longer be diagnosed as crazy - there are just too many of them.
'But, if there is a condition that is threatening to the social structure - like the idea that the aliens are here and they are taking our babies, or that God hates people of a certain creed or colour - and if people who believe in that kind of delusion band together, they can end up encouraging each other to get a lot sicker, or they strap on belts and make themselves human bombs. So we have to know how to deal with these people and how to prevent them from being dangerous to others.
'This applies to the UFO problem. If something really strange in the area of UFOs is true, then what do we do about conveying that information to the public? First we consider what may be the basic facts: maybe there are civilised lifeforms elsewhere in the universe; maybe they visited us in their spaceships a couple of times and then went back home; perhaps they left a vehicle or some technology behind and we've spent a lot of time and money trying to figure out how to use it. And there may be people in the government who believe that this did happen, and believe that the information needs to be public knowledge, because perhaps someone outside of the government will be able to make sense of their technology. But there's another group of people in power who say, "No, it will make them sick to know all this, we can't let the story out, it's too dangerous." '
John and I glanced at each other. My mouth was dry...Things were getting strange again. Did Kit just tell us that these things happened? Was that a hypothetical scenario he had just presented us with, or one that he believed to be real? Kit continued.
'So, what do we do? There are studies on both sides of the problem. Some show that people will go crazy and jump of bridges when they're presented with this information. Others, however, say that if you don't want them to go crazy, what you do is systematically desensitize their fears.
'If you are a psychiatrist with a patient you can do that in a very methodical way. If you are a sociologist working with a group of students at a university you can do this in a very structured and experimental way. But if you are a government with a population it's a lot more complicated. Sure, there are those who are just going to shrug and say, "I always knew the aliens were real, it's no big deal." But you also know that some of them are nuttier than a fruitcake and could cause a lot of trouble. So we have to ask ourselves how we can tell people what they deserve to know and, maybe, what they need to know?
'The way to do it is to construct a framework whereby they can parse out the things that they've heard that are not true, and you whittle it down to a manageable story. A story like this: "There were three spaceships that came here over thirty years, and we've got one of them. We can't figure out how it works, we've crashed it because there's a lot of physics that we've still got to learn. We do have something that's like a magnethydrodynamic toroid, and it really did get a craft of the ground, but it smelled bad and it killed a couple of pilots. And we're really sorry about that, but we did it because we've got this machine that came from another planet, and we need to know how it works." '
Oh god, he just did it again. I tried to slow my breathing to prevent the giddiness from becoming a full-on panic attack.
Kit carried on, oblivious to my inner struggle. I was glad not to be inside one of his MRI machines.
'How do you tell people that story? If it's true?' he added, almost parenthetically.
"If you were to give them the core story right off the bat, they'd get sick, so you do it slowly over ten or twenty years.You put out a bunch of movies, a bunch of books, a bunch of stories, a bunch of Internet memes about reptilian aliens eating our children, about all the crazy stuff that we've seen recently in Serpo. Then one day you say, "Hey, all that stuff is nonsense, relax, it's not that bad, you don't have to worry, the reality is this..." - and then you give them the real story."
Mirage Men by Mark Pilkington
originally posted by: BASSPLYR
I'd like to read up on the kit green TIGER experiment and the one with the Chinese attempt to entangle brains with a MRI machine. got any good links. i got nothing to do today except relax and it sounds like a fascinating read.
originally posted by: ctj83
Here is what you can identify if you pay attention.
- Remote Viewing experiments for UAP experiencers
- precognitive / temporal RV via Grillflame binary coordinates
- possible attempt to communicate between entangled brains / same brain in the past
And the point of all of this?