Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: mirageman

As you know, I love my metaphors.

that hotdog stand thing is just priceless.

so blame me, if I believed your research!

a reply to: mirageman

If you really want to be my friend.. and understand even a smidge what it's
like inside my brain.. read this pls:

The Architect

I remember i was lashing out at my parents about peak oil before I could
ride a bicycle!

I love my wife, and certain aspects of my life & my current job.. but
i've lived a failed life.. by my own standards anyway..

I've been working on coming to terms with this for years..

I'd thought that perhaps I could actually accomplish something
wonderful in the "UFO field", but I think I was wrong about
that hope.

Kev

a reply to: Guest101

correct change the value of C to a higher number and mass decreases. so how does one change the permeability and permittivity of the vacuum. from my understanding its a very (read extremely) expensive, cumbersome endeavor and so 99 percent of the "ufos" dont go that route and are limited to sub luminal speeds using another method. it's also very dangerous.

hypothetically speaking of course.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

OK Kev you went all Myers-Briggs on us there. I get your point.

And believe me that hotdog stand "Our Two Dogs". Has anyone ever bought a hotdog from them? Or is it just another money shuffling exercise to ease tax payments for the DeLonge business empire?

a reply to: mirageman

hey kev if youre an architect my myers briggs is a debater.. wanna be my friend it's simple just argue with me.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

we've already been doing that, if you haven't noticed!

Enjoy!

I almost replied to your speed of light thing.. and was thinking about discussing
frame-based and non-frame based theories of cosmology... general relativity
is background dependent.. while string/quantum theory is not.

But I didn't feel like sparking "vigorous debate". There's about a 90% chance anytime
I respond to you, that will happen.

Which is fine.. but i just have to be in a BP mood!

a reply to: mirageman

Well i bet they'd jump up and give one to Mr. Bigelow if he wandered by.

Now there is an interesting fellow..

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

naw we have plenty of non vigorous debate. would love to get your insight to anisgina one day. it mirrors mothmen and other similar phenomena, goes through distinct phases that escalate going up to the big show.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

What? You don't think they have already? Mr. B is the centrifuge of ALL of this. LOL

"Kev", release your super feelings of self import and flow with it until it exposes what it is or, even more likely, what it IS NOT.

Or just ignore it all and live unperturbed. It's completely up to you, this whining about how it's all "affecting" you is sort of crass and really hard to swallow...

a reply to: Springer

Hiya, Springer. Have you been keeping up with IsaacKoi's developing research on information connected to To The Stars?

As per the recent WIRED Magazine article that also referenced ATS especially. Thoughts?

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It's hard living by that kind of expectations and frustrating knowing your own potential but not getting along the same line as the other '98%'. Small steps ...

Mine's the logician btw.

Hot dogs stand ?

Ummm..

You know, my friends, allegories are true, there not made up stories. Indeed the Garden of Eden allegory is true on its own level.

Here’s a true allegory as well, draw from it--- relating to our subject matter--- what you will( Tell)

Speaking of hot dogs.I like hot dogs, I don’t eat em very much because there really not too good for you, but they are good… tasting.

And the best hotdogs are something some of you foreign gents and ladies might not be aware of…I don’t know. Italian hot dogs. There the best. I remember a few years ago there was this old Italian guy in Irvington NJ who had the best Italian hotdogs ever!
Oh, they were good... He’d grease em up, give you those hot greasy potatoes and greasy onions and you’d have a ball after heaping a lot of ketchup on em with mustard on the bread--oh boy! And this was the original Italian hotdogs.

Bet everything comes to an end… He retired, closed his greasy hotdog place and now when you go pass the old joint you see a spanking new drug store…They tore the place down, and when I pass the place, that spanking new drug store, I think of these good ass hotdogs nobody will ever taste again.

It gives me a feeling of FAKE PROGRESS

Of course they say everything’s comes to an end…oh boy…

I loved those hot dogs, they were the best, but I guess like Buddha said the only thing constant in the world…is change

But boy oh how I miss those greasy hot dogs.


Proverb

There’s nothing new under the sun

You just don’t know it yet

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Oh yeah, I was wondering if you're still having the idea to write a book? Something I was hoping you were doing while you were of the radar.

But as you've probably allready figured out, once written and even getting the chance of it being published, you need to prevent it being lost in the noise. You'd have to promote it on asocial media like YouTube, Instagram, Twitter and give interviews on spacey music and coffee blending podcasts ... or you can always sell your soul to the holy sausage who's got that part covered. Pick your poison, or don't pick anything at all.

But there are other less exaggerated ways, more in line of your way of thinking and goals, that perhaps whenever the time is right may serve some purpose. I'm sure you can think of something.

Is everything burning down, or is this a consolidation?

I have struggled with this whole episode in regards to Bigelow, Elizondo, TTSA and the whole shebang that they are selling or not.

Nothing has been clear and some individuals seem to be hanging their hat on the information that has been presented. But it has all been bizarre. The Mylar balloon in the TTSA, the videos which are in dispute and maybe jet exhausts, the videos being show and played behind Capt Fravor which I do not believe are of the incident he was involved in, the muddy waters around the "De-Classification" or not of said videos.

I do wonder if this is all on purpose, hiding small nuggets of truth in lots of information that can easily be picked apart. Surely that is how they have been doing mis-information for decades?

I do tire of this in all honesty and might check out on the whole thing for 12 months and revisit it all to see what actually happened...

The only part that doesn't seem to have got any traction is the medical trials/examinations/tests etc of "experiancers" at BASS that was written in the original article?

a reply to: Springer

Oh i hear you.

I get to thinking that I don't need this lame BS and then I "retire".
You'll note that I take like 6 months off of ATS and live my happy
little life.

But then I'll get an email or something like that, and I get all jazzed
up again, to jump back into the fray.

Self importance? I can see why you'd say that.. it's a hazard of my
personality type. For an almost Buddhist, it's almost embarrassing,
but I've learned to live with it. It's not going away anytime soon.

This little outburst was my letting go.. more anyway...

a reply to: pigsy2400

The only part that doesn't seem to have got any traction is the medical trials/examinations/tests etc of "experiencers" at BASS that was written in the original article?

It is not actually a straightforward process to find much information about the experiencer group. Obviously patient confidentiality is one of the reasons. Surely lessons were learned since the Carpenter Affair. There are very few of the group who have gone public and even that information isn't exactly easy to track down.

Read carefully what those involved in the 'treatment' have said what these people 'experienced' . They seem believe they were exposed to black ops technology involving electro-magnetic fields.

Then you have all those people listed on the TTSA website as part of the consultancy team. The ones who didn't appear in the public launch video.

Dr. Garry Nolan is a Genetics Technologies Consultant & Professor in the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Stanford University School of Medicine.

Dr. Paul Rapp is the Brain Function & Consciousness Consultant & Professor of Military and Emergency Medicine at the Uniformed Services University

Dr. Norm Kahn is a National Security & Program Management Consultant currently a consultant on national security for the US Government, with a focus on preventing the use of biological weapons of mass destruction/disruption.

Dr. Colm Kelleher is the Biotech Consultant (biochemist).

Dr. Adele Gilpin is the Biomedical Research & Attorney. A scientist with biomedical academic and research experience as well as an active, licensed, attorney.

Even Luis Elizondo's academic background includes Microbiology, Immunology and Parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases.



Seems like a lot of people with qualifications in biology and links back to the intelligence services.

Do you think Tom DeLonge assembled them together to work his hotdog stands?

a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

Well on the subject of a book.

A lot of what i know is already out there.. in a thousand fragmented pieces
and covered over with a thousand layers of bull #.

And what I know?

It's still probably 50% bull #. Unintentional bull # mind you.. but the
sort of things I research are all-but impossible to prove at this point,
without a lot of work in the lab.. with the right kind of experiencer,

and I don't have the $$ to fund this by myself.. and the few people
doing this kind of research with Bigelow/Government $$ aren't
sharing the research / collaborating!

I have a very sensitive moral algorithm.. so I don't want to spread
50% misinformation.. so that moral algorithm prevents me from
saying too much or writing too much.

I could write a talking piece.. talking about the various elements..
grading the veracity of my own research and others research in
the field.. that might be useful.

But I'm a little like "Veeger" in the original (stinky) Star Trek
the Motion Picture. I want full bonding with full knowledge
before i share.. and that doesn't happen.. due to the
"trickster effect".

It's also easy to prevent myself from sharing.. the knowledge
that (apparently) there is a fully deterministic layer "behind"
quantum phenomenon.. I'm talking the retrocausality future
to past pilot wave effect.

Knowing that there is limited or no free will.. if I find myself
at the 50% willing/wanting to write spot.. well i guess that
just means I will find myself writing if I find myself writing..

It's like with my "faults". I don't view them as faults.
(doesn't that sound really narcissistic, LOL?).

If you focus on eliminating faults.. it just shows that you
don't really know who you are.. those "faults" all serve
a purpose. This is why most "spirituality" fails.. you
wind up tying yourself into knots try to fight the
"non-spiritual impulses and habits". But once you learn
who you really are, there's no point to any of that..

Well.. I'm always going "off topic" in any thread I
post in.. as there isn't a folder for "the world
according to prettybear" and anything I write
about has a thousand side stories to it.

But all that was to answer about my not
"writing a book".

I did get a short essay published by a major
author in his book.. but i don't recommend
the book, so I don't advertise it! LOL.

I hope that explains a bit.

I wouldn't let yourself get sidetracked with
the "world according to prettybear stuff"..
some of it has value.. and some of it does
NOT. (unfortunately).

Kev

a reply to: mirageman

On the subject of the brain... (bwains!)

As we've already discussed in other threads of yours, Teraherz radiation, while
non-ionizing, can supposedly produce effects, (at certain frequencies), similar
to ionizing radiation.

In this particular case I'd like to mention that brain edema (swelling & inflammation)
is such a known side-effect of ionizing radiation.

Inflammation in the brain is also something that occurs with dementia and
Alzheimers.

Mad cow disease resembles dementia in symptomology.

What with Mr. Bigelow largely "owning" UFOlogy in the USA,
or trying to.. and also many people (unsubstantiated) think
he was involved with cattle mutiliations..

It would seem, if one takes either thought thread seriously,
that inflammation in the brain is the thing of interest here..

and I can certainly see why the government/military would
want to get to the bottom of brain inflammation... if they
thought they were involved.. in the most quiet manner
possible.. and with a fall guy (Bigelow) if the "ugly truth"
ever got out.

Now the "Positive" experiencer brain change thing might
be pure disinfo to get the experiencers to come in for
testing.. to make them feel "special", when in fact they
might just have mad cow disease, or have been irradiated
by the government.

Very touchy these days.. it's more fashionable to be a
conspiracy theorist than it used to be.. I mean..
MKULTRA was admitted to..

I think ti's likely that the Albert Budden / "Prettybear"
type "antenna" has nothing to do with the "antenna
project" from TTSA.

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: zeroPointOneQ

I hope that explains a bit.

Perfectly clear.