Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

a reply to: pigsy2400

My mind is buzzing Pigs.

Luis Elizondo;
"These aircraft — we'll call them aircraft — are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the U.S. inventory nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware of,"

So...is Zondo a Lazar debunker then....

Ok so.. the 38th DIRD has been released by none other than Nick pope of all people...he obtained it from DIA's Office of Corporate Communications.
"The 38th DIRD State of the Art and Evolution of High Energy Laser Weapons"

Also interesting to note;
Attachments 12 and 15 are still classified and not available for;
"Field Effects on Biological Tissues and an introduction to the Statistical Drake Equation"

Hmmm field effects.. exposure to UAP radiation, sounds like it could be what they were probably doing at SwR, DIA after all.

Here are the documents, I have cleaned up the first one as it was quite difficult to read..










The author of the document is;

John Albertine has a BS in physics from Rose Polytechnic Institute and a Master’s degree in applied physics from Johns Hopkins University with research in satellite navigation. He began working with precision tracking, optical propagation, and high-power lasers in the early 1970s while at the Space Division of Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory. In 1976, he joined the Navy’s High Energy Laser Program Office where he led the development, integration, and test of the first megawatt-class laser system in the U.S. He retired from government service in 1997 and began independent technical consulting for the defense department. He has been a technical advisor to the high-energy laser joint technology office for over 10 years and chaired the independent review team for the AirBorne Laser Program. He was a member of the National Academy of Sciences study on free-electron laser technology and a member of the Air Force Scientific Advisory Board. He is a DEPS Fellow.

Source

Looks like he is still busy too...
this is from a DOD contract offering
DOD Contract - Lasers

a reply to: pigsy2400

Has the one on Invisibility Cloaking been released or found, or is that one of the two that is allegedly classified?

a reply to: pigsy2400

Yep read it earlier. Danny Silva piped in too on Nicks page.

a reply to: beetee

or something similar to this probably;

"Nonlinear Effects on the Cylindrical Cloaking Solution from Transformation Optics and Negative Index Metamaterials on Electromagnetic Shielding"
- Jeremy S. Hughes, Physics Department, Naval Postgraduate School

Which is;

The effects of a nonlinear constitutive relationship on a cloaking solution described by transformation optics are presented. Failure modes of such a device used for electromagnetic shielding are defined and compared to numerical results obtained from a nonlinear model of a scattering problem in COMSOL Multiphysics software. Results show that distortion and breakdown effects dominate for intense fields. Analysis of negative index metamaterials is discussed.

If you understand any of that gobble of course... and here is something a little more recent;
Cloaking Stuff

a reply to: pigsy2400

All very interesting. But concentrating on the first part of the letter rather than the list of documents.

What I see is that this letter says:

U/FOUO - [For Official Use Only]

Based on interest from your staff regarding the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)'s role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program (AATIP) please find attached a list of all products produced under the AATIP contract for the DIA to publish. The purpose of AATIP was to investigate foreign advanced aerospace weapon threats from the present out to the next 40 years

There are 38 reports associated with the DIA's involvement in the program documented in the list.......

Firstly it uses Aerospace which is the 'Zondo' term not the Pentagon's.

Then it calls a bunch of documents 'products'.

Finally it tells us what we've already knew for a long while anyway.

The purpose of AATIP was to investigate foreign advanced aerospace weapon threats from the present out to the next 40 years

AATIP did not investigate UFOs or UAPs per se as DelBoy and Zondo have proclaimed. It was a study of 'foreign' aerospace weapon threats. Which must include some level of 'predicting' what those threats may be as far out as the 2040s.

So to me it's like TTSA being registered as "Services Allied to Motion Picture".

When it come to official documents TTSA is an entertainment company and AATIP looked into threats from foreign adversaries. There's nothing relating to the study of UFOs or aliens there.

But people (cue new video from UFO Judas) will make all sorts of excuses why that observation is not reading between the lines I guess. I would suggest that sometimes you just need to read the lines for the truth.

DIRECTED ENERGY PROFESSIONAL SOCIETY - also known as DEPS. The author of the 38th DIRD report is a member of this group. If you love all things "lasers" you might like this;

A few quick searches here and there in terms of his papers and research led me to this link, his name is on some of these research projects. Some of the others are quite interesting in title and the departments / companies involved;

DEPS

Laser Research into;

"Beam Control System Trades for Near-Term Navy Tactical Laser Concepts"
John R. Albertine, Independent Consultant

and others...

*"Finding Potentially Susceptible Targets of High-Power Microwave Attack Using Time-Frequency Analysis"
Walter Wall, Sun Hong, and Tim Andreadis, U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, Tactical Electronics Warfare Division

* "How to Pack Fiber Laser Arrays More Efficiently Than Hexagonal Close Pack"
Chun-Ching Shih, Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems

* "Gaussian Beams from a Beam Control Perspective"
Charles J. Albers, Jr., BAE Systems

* "Solid-State Active Denial Weapons"
K. Brown, R. Lowell, A. Brown, K.C. Hwang, and R. Scott, Raytheon and Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate

* "Nonlinear Effects on the Cylindrical Cloaking Solution from Transformation Optics and Negative Index Metamaterials on Electromagnetic Shielding"
Jeremy S. Hughes, Physics Department, Naval Postgraduate School

* "Determination of Rubidium Number Density under Optically Thick Conditions, Pressure Broadened by Helium or Methane"
Matthew Rotondaro, C. Wisniewski, M. Post, C. Porter, and E. Smith, Department of Aeronautical Engineering, U.S. Air Force Academy; Gordon Hager, Air Force Institute of Technology

* "Lethality Experiment Using a Diode Array to Simulate a Weapon-Class Laser"
W.H. Lowdermilk, A.M. Rubenchik, and H.K. Springer, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

a reply to: mirageman

I did see that and started writing a post on it too.

With the letter coming from DIA, that already holds a few issues. John Greenwalde has pointed out before that Zondo worked for the DOD, as he has stated multiple times.. not the DIA? - So that's another issue...then the FOIA requests that John Greenwalde did in regards to "Aviation / Aerospace"

Alot of the DIRDs, pertaining to WarpDrive and all that loveliness had already been written / released and looks like these papers were just rehashes of something that already existed. So was $22million spent on bringing some old sci-fi papers up-to date?

Does the confusion come from Zondo and Bigelow.... was it a DIA program at SWR that was funded through AAWSAP, which when BASS and AAWSAP folded and the little leftover brother AATIP came around fell under the DOD?- which Zondo then took over the running of (collating pilot reports) and not much else.

"all the program did was create reams of paperwork"

I believe that the names of the program AAWSAP at least, was intentionally named, so that it didn't draw much attention in terms of what the program actually was. Taking into account the apparent "kickback" there was which meant the last year of the program was cut short and the option to extend it wasn't taken up.

It had nothing to do with anything in the sky.. it was a DIA program at SWR which was probably some form of human experimentation with certain classified weaponry and to see if there was anything at the ranch. If they had called it "Big Bob Bigelows Boogie BBQ" then it surely would have caught the attention of the people who wanted the program stopped much sooner than it actually was.

AATIP aside and all that nonsense, as that fits the TTSA narrative.

In summary, the name of AAWSAP was named / titled to be intentionally misleading from the start, to hide its real purpose and to stop attention being drawn to it.

Attachment 15
One of the attachments that are apparently not available for release;

"Introduction to the Statistical Drake Equation" - whose author is "Claudio Maccone".

Claudio Maccone is a member of SETI;

"Claudio Maccone is an Italian SETI astronomer, space scientist and mathematician. In 2002 he was awarded the "Giordano Bruno Award" by the SETI League, "for his efforts to establish a radio observatory on the far side of the Moon. In 2012, he became a founding member of the Advisory Council of the Institute for Interstellar Studies."

His models and theories is cited in this scientific paper that heavily discusses the "SDE"

I can only assume, that the attachment that was made available for congressmen involved etc, was a layman's / dumbed down version. The link here, does include all the gobble of scientific equations etc, but does go into great depth regarding the statistical approach and how the original formulas have been updated to take into account new discoveries and the passing of time and our increased understanding etc;

Link;
Source

Not only that, but he also has his own paper on Statistical Drake-Seager Equation for Exoplanet and SETI searches that was uploaded, by himself in 2015;
Source

As for the EarthTec - Effects on Biological Tissues - One can only assume that has something to do with the MRIs that were posted here last year that they got antsy about...

a reply to: pigsy2400

Haven't done a gag for at least a couple of days....

If they had called it "Big Bob Bigelows Boogie BBQ" then it surely would have caught the attention of the people who wanted the program stopped much sooner than it actually was.

Big Bob is always cooking
Big Derek is good looking
The Hoff is always bluffing
An' Thats no lie
We spent the night at Tom's place
Zondo he got s**tfaced
Sick and he does not know why...

Don't blame it on the red wine
Don't blame it on the Bud Lite
Don't blame it on his bed time
Blame it on the Burgers


© Pork&Mirage Productions 2019 : All Rights Reversed

a reply to: mirageman

Just when I was trying to be grown up and mature....
LOL @ Pork&Mirage Productions 2019 - as long as you register it as an entertainment company "aligned to humorous pictures", we should be ok....

Field Effects on Biological Tissues
Could be something like this....
Effects of Electromagnetic Fields on Organs and Tissues

Very few studies have been performed on the responses of organs and tissues to electromagnetic fields in the low-frequency or ultra-high-frequency ranges used by GWEN transmitters, but it is possible to conclude from the analysis presented here that effects of RF radiation are unlikely to occur at the power densities and absorbed energies associated with GWEN fields. The possible existence of nonthermal effects—such as the reported effects of low-intensity, amplitude-modulated RF fields on Ca2+ binding in nerve tissue—do not alter that conclusion, in that the waveforms and frequency spectra of these fields are different from those of the GWEN fields. Physiologic effects of ELF fields—with frequencies less than one five-hundredth those of GWEN fields—are generally associated with high field intensities and large induced-current densities in tissue. Some physiologic effects of ELF fields that might result from low induced current in tissue, such as alterations in pineal melatonin concentration, have not been shown to pose a direct risk to human health. In sum, studies on physiologic effects of ELF fields have yielded little evidence that exposure to the low-frequency fields from GWEN antennae in areas of most likely public access would represent a health risk.

But more than likely, the exposure to UAP radiation as suffered by the person whose MRI scan was out there last year and posted on ATS and also injuries suffered by the likes of John Burroughs of the RFI.

We could postulate and say that the reason the attachments for those DIRDs are unavailable, could be due to the methods in which genetic material of some of the "patients" was acquired. How these materials are acquired for the research would have to be documented, which may explain why Burroughs was re-approached by Kit Green and Co for his permission to use his genetic material, even though they had already got a sample without his knowledge.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

i din't see that, thanks!

a reply to: pigsy2400

strangely enough he also said that he is a fan of UFO jesus and j is a bob lazar believer....

a reply to: humanoidlord

strangely enough he also said that he is a fan of UFO jesus and j is a bob lazar believer....

If J is a Bob Lazar believer then isn't that a classic example of cognitive dissonance?

Here is Zondo chasing round looking for proof for alien spacecraft with his paltry budget. Meanwhile they'd been sitting in a hangar in Area 51 all the time. If only he'd asked Bob hey?

That's the big conundrum isn't it. Has American been covering up downed alien hardware? If you believe Zondo and company then the answer is NO!!!

a reply to: mirageman

The only cover-up exposed by The Great Zondo is a grey goatee.

a reply to: humanoidlord

When people that have a genuine interest in this field, but the also the naivety of youth and easier methods of communication than back in the day, they could be seen as being useful idiots for whatever purpose is at play.

An excerpt from TDL to John Podesta that I think explains a few things;

""George Knapp is an multi-award winning Journalist, the one who famously broke the story of Area-51's existence many years ago. He's an incredible man. I've actually created a secondary advisory group with him included to help take the direction from my Primary Advisors and direct the info toward the youth."

"This project is about changing the cynical views of youth towards government."

People don't need to be co-opted or coerced anymore, they volunteer...

a reply to: mirageman

while eric davis (very likely a menber of the TTSA team) says that america does have UFOs hiding in a storage somewhere
and i can swear i watched zondo give a presentation in a conference (possibly MUFON) where he said that while he doesn't believes 100% on it, the roswell incident has anomalies that can't be explained (even giving the example of the flatbed truck, wich DOES imply they recovered something)
so it seems not even zondo can agree on this issue

originally posted by: mirageman

When it come to official documents TTSA is an entertainment company and AATIP looked into threats from foreign adversaries. There's nothing relating to the study of UFOs or aliens there.

UFOs and aliens are - by definition - foreign.