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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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It's something that no one seems to want to speak about and is a research dead end as a result though. It's only because a few have spoken, that I can suggest that the process is viewing through someone elses eyes.


I'd be interested how that would stand up in a legal case. Because without the permission of the third party involved it could be construed as unethical and a clear attempted invasion of privacy. I'd also think that by now after 268 pages we've probably established that such magic is being worked on with technology rather than mystics gazing over their crystal balls. Ouch!




posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 08:13 AM
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Because without the permission of the third party involved it could be construed as unethical and a clear attempted invasion of privacy.


Very much so.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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I'd be interested how that would stand up in a legal case. Because without the permission of the third party involved it could be construed as unethical and a clear attempted invasion of privacy. I'd also think that by now after 268 pages we've probably established that such magic is being worked on with technology rather than mystics gazing over their crystal balls. Ouch!


Why would the concept of "invasion of privacy" occur to a scientist persuing research or guys like government/corporate spooks?

"Because we can!" Seems to be the ethic of modern times



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 10:30 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

Begs all kind of questions really Baa...

Would it be possible that if a remote viewer was viewing an area or building or forest etc etc.. and was observing another individual who also had the "innate" ability to remote view also. I wonder if there would be an awareness between the two.. of the two...being at the same place... in a kooky way..

*Removes Pot Noodle Helmet*



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 10:36 AM
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You mean like John Burrough's not giving a tissue sample but....?

I'm not meaning to suggest that RV is real - far from it. Simply that those who use that phrase likely have that definition.

It seems to play a persistent role in the RFI periphery.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 11:52 AM
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technology rather than mystics 



Yes techno too.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 11:54 AM
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Another fashion item. A pot noodle helmet. Beats them old T.Shirts.




posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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What’s this AAIODU about?



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:00 PM
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??
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posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:17 PM
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SilvaRecord says it’s another uap tracking agency.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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exactly, lol!



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:30 PM
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wow finally somebody that din't become triggered when i mentioned that PSI powers are likely BS, this usually starts a flamewar!
but yeah i have never seen a 100% result, because those don't exist and they are a direct contradiction to the IDH theory



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:41 PM
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I know nothing of those guys apart from KPB, not having met any others personally Of Vallee, I now only what has been said on this thread. Keel,

it really tells something about the current (ETH biased) state of ufology when you don't know who keel and vallee was and in vallee's case is
these two men basically solved the UFO phenomena years ago, but then in the 80's the military-industrial complex started planting disinfo supporting ETH into ufology and the world never was the same



That article pigsy linked to on Nolan and the "antennae", on first impression I felt like what you and many others have expressed about the TTSA and how it is rewriting (reinventing?) UFOlogy. - deplorable, taking over and setting themselves up as the new authorities. Like Jung and Freud, the TTSA is reducing something wonderful to just materialistic science.so much is lost when they take control and throw out the bathwater.

not the first time when this happened either, do you know richard doty?



You have met them? Or assuming?

i wish!, i did see a shadowy being below a lamppost in 2009, but besides that...



Actually it was not the posting on the web nor the content. What pissed me off was the breaking of the principal of the Private Message system. Private communication is meant to be private. Basic betrayal of a confidence.

well i am sorry, i mentioned it because this is the right topic



In a way the concept of the "trickster" has its basis in a failing of human understanding of other Being's nature. Put bluntly; we don't understand them, so we decree they are tricking us and it must all be manipulation and illusion. That is simply sour grapes.

joe simongton, woody derenbenger and jean hingley all had encounters wich can't be explained by your theory



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: ctj83
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SilvaRecord says it’s another uap tracking agency.


Isn't he another one co-opted to the Dark Side of the TTSA empire too?

He probably finds a lack of faith disturbing.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: mirageman

wow finally somebody that din't become triggered when i mentioned that PSI powers are likely BS, this usually starts a flamewar!
but yeah i have never seen a 100% result, because those don't exist and they are a direct contradiction to the IDH theory


That's because I am a magician



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:48 PM
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i have yet to see proof of any of them working, just the fact that we know of project stargate's existence, is proof that it doesn't works



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 05:56 PM
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Advanced Aerospace Identification and Description Of UAP??

Someone playing trickster?
Link?
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posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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I'd agree.



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 06:24 PM
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You have to really examine the Genesis of these theories and who inserted them into "ufology", but also their personal beliefs and the influence that these beliefs have on them as people.

It's so bizzare that people hang on literally only two theories and argue the points. It's like there are only two alternatives to it all...



posted on Jan, 11 2019 @ 06:36 PM
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it really tells something about the current (ETH biased) state of ufology when you don't know who keel and vallee was and in vallee's case is
these two men basically solved the UFO phenomena years ago, but then in the 80's the military-industrial complex started planting disinfo supporting ETH into ufology and the world never was the same


I know KPB spoke a lot about Vallee, and I did a bit of internet reading on Keel. You must like him a lot, it comes out in how you view things.

The last UFO books I read were in the early 1970s; the Harmonic series by Bruce Cathie. Personally I avoid books because as a kid I read a lot of occult books and when I eventually started to experience things for my self, well, the books didn't apply in the faintest compared to the actuality.

The mil/industrial thing is a new concept to me, the new age/pliedian thing I can relate to. Watching that all unfold gives a similar view, and TTSA is just more of it. Yet to just dismiss it as harmless is perhaps reckless. I don't.


not the first time when this happened either, do you know richard doty?


No, never met him.



i wish!, i did see a shadowy being below a lamppost in 2009, but besides that...


If you can glimpse the Shadow People you're not far from it and what we call "greys" are not far from there.



well i am sorry, i mentioned it because this is the right topic


No you're not, but I'll get over it. : )



joe simongton, woody derenbenger and jean hingley all had encounters wich can't be explained by your theory


Now here is a problem. If you UFO guys go looking for all-inclusive concepts that explain Life the Universe and Everything, well you're gonna come unstuck every time.

One might say; The only universal constant is the presence of anomaly. Grok? There is a reason I chose What's this then? as a username.

Actually, I don't have any theories, all I intend to do here on ATS is provide home grown insights on subjects. They are based on personal experience and not gathered from books. The only value insights have is when someone else stops and wonders "what if?"

That may open a door for them.

Also, ATS has a lot of smart people who cover just about every interesting thing on earth and beyond. I discover nuggets hidden away here and there which helps me in my interests. It is polite for me to repay that debt by dropping breadcrumbs myself.




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