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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Jan, 4 2019 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: pigsy2400




Their core audience is.......? I have no idea.. we aren't their target audience but ironically the only ones paying any real attention is those within Ufology.....and they don't need the education.


I think the TTSA guys know exactly who their demographic is. It's young people with a little disposable income and looking for an idea to glom onto that they feel will enhance their hipness. And if packaged properly with the art house aesthetic and a hint of cheezyness, it can be a fantastic success. The late nite starbucks folks with their THC vaporizers and hats on backwards. It's commerce, capitalism, and woowoo entrepreneurship, entertainment. Basically the same kids we target with our films. It's hard sometimes to get their attention but if you can project the image of you're part of a very special group, part of the old "in crowd" subset like the goths, punks, and metalheads image.
With their own fashion, music, hip slanguage and pseudo religion to make the tribe cohesive .

It's the old tried and true Hanna Montana template actually. If you don't actually have a market, create one with a theme and story.

In this case the UFOs/hidden secrets/cover ups is simply the hook. "Stick with us we have inside info coming soon" It's old school but with the cellphone, cyber twitter, Instagram interface to keep the info "leaking" out to those with the apps.

It's science in human behavior....not even upper division stuff.

www.canva.com...

blog.hubspot.com...
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posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 12:00 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Good link mm. I like this Kiviat guy he is a clear thinker and saying much of what many of us have been saying but in a clear-headed fashion. Calling them out for their BS.


Giving TTSA these videos supposedly yet denying any connection to the TTSA circus.

Plausible deniability



posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 12:13 AM
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a reply to: olaru12

The whole 'make this an entertainment thing' is just so ludicrous and gauche
when you consider the implications of the subject matter if true.

The current Mega-Media fad in rockstar-UFOtainment has grossed me out. I preferred crappy fake alien interviews on you tube flooding the market tbh.

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posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 02:14 AM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: mirageman

Good link mm. I like this Kiviat guy he is a clear thinker and saying much of what many of us have been saying but in a clear-headed fashion. Calling them out for their BS.


Giving TTSA these videos supposedly yet denying any connection to the TTSA circus.

Plausible deniability


He’s a bit much but it’s a lot of good info. I haven’t heard anyone else talk about Firmage essentially being replaced by Delonge. It sounds like Puthoff shopped the idea after a falling out, same name and game. Perhaps there was a marriage of this company idea with TDL as he’s being gassed up and Dotied by Podesta, and that’s why this co is even strutting as govt disclosure?
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posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 07:57 AM
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a reply to: Willtell

The "warp drive" stuff isn't new and certain individuals are in books and materials going back to the mid 90s on that front. They are just shoe horning in old material into ufology 2.0.

I think there is huge tell in mainstream ufologists within ufology at least, of thier critique of TTSA in the early days and then an almost 180 in support of them.

I postulate that they saw an opportunity to get thier feet under that table at the impending disclosure feast and co-opted into it. With TTSA out to destroy ufology, you could say that as the main voices have been co-opted, when it is run into the ground...whose going to be left afterwards that is respected and the voice of reason?



posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

I take it you are not a TTSA fan Pig's.

😂😂



posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 11:51 AM
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I think there is huge tell in mainstream ufologists within ufology at least, of thier critique of TTSA in the early days and then an almost 180 in support of them.



So you are saying some Ufologists changed their opinion on TTSA. What are you saying is the reason they did this. That they were bribed?

If your saying some of them just wanted to be in on the "disclosure" then I agree with that.



posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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Not bribed no, probably more of a sales pitch. Imagine being a full-time ufologist and the bills need paying and egos need filling of course..

If TTSA was legit, imagine being offered a seat at the table, front row centre so when the "disclosure" happens...the world will know your name and ask you to educate them about it all.....!!

All nonsense of course and a theory...but I can't imagine many turning them down.

Not only the ones that have been around since forever, but oddly the "young ones" have only really started appearing on the scene in the last 12 month's too...

Just for fun...imagine that a bunch of the old skool ufologists all got together some 15 years ago or so and decided that the fractured "ufo community" needed some solidarity and direction under one group...possibly that one group is what we have seen forming and disbanding initiaves over that period of time. Deciding that they are the sorry tellers and believes they own the narrative and it's control...just for fun



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posted on Jan, 5 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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An interesting post on reddit from 5years ago detailing the Nimitz incident, also calls it a tic-tac as well;
tinyurl.com...



posted on Jan, 6 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: AboveBoard

taking too much time for such important information



posted on Jan, 6 2019 @ 02:30 PM
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a reply to: pigsy2400

amazing list!
deserves its own thread IMO



posted on Jan, 6 2019 @ 05:44 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

until march 31, march is supposed to be the "big month" if nothing happens by then, then we can easily dump TTSA in the black list



posted on Jan, 6 2019 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: humanoidlord
a reply to: pigsy2400

amazing list!
deserves its own thread IMO


Indeed, it almost deserves the ending of all discussion on TTSA forever.

I feel embarrassed that I ever felt any 'hope' for new revelations or 'disclosure' from their shameless circus. As ever, we live and learn. Or at least try to.



posted on Jan, 6 2019 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: ConfusedBrit

exactly, i think its going to be hard to believe in anything TTSA says after that one



posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 02:34 AM
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So, now what?
😞



posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 03:09 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

Well I still think we will get information to dissect to add to the pile.

However, the quality of information I'm sure will be just as erroneous and questionable as before. Not to sound negative, but there is a pattern with the things they have released so far in regards to its authenticity etc etc.

It will be an interesting few months....maybe we will learn something... Maybe not...



posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 03:40 AM
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I've learned totally nothing so far. But there is a lot of weazle waffle going on.

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posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 04:30 AM
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It will be questionable information at best. In terms of the "bomb" they are supposedly going to drop in terms of things like Rendlesham, we have to remember what TTSA have said in terms of educating people.

It's more likely something that in my opinion, we have suspected but not had officially acknowledged or that we as people interested in this subject already know, but the wider world doesn't due to their lack of interest or press coverage on the "details".



posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 06:30 AM
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We have to see Pigs time will tell I guess.



posted on Jan, 7 2019 @ 07:18 AM
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CUN (Italy's Centro Ufologico Nazionale) appear to be running a flier on behalf of one ‘Scientific Coalition for Ufology’ (SCU, www.explorescu.org...). Affiliates of this group include at least eight Ph.D qualified individuals. Alejandro Rojas appears to be on its eight-person board. Anyone familiar with this group?


The SCU is currently examining the material released by the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program (within the Dept of Defense as identified in media reports) with the objective to either identify the unknown objects, or add information as to the characteristics of these objects. Material regarding unidentified objects from military outlets is very rare in recent years. The SCU has experience with similar infrared video in an exhaustive investigation conducted on a case in Puerto Rico. The resources and knowledge gained in that investigation will be brought to bear in this examination and the results will be shared with the public.


Appears they will be running a conference on Anomalous Aerospace Phenomena (AAP). It will be held from March 15, 2019 to March 17, 2019, at the conference room of ' Rocket City Tavern', in Huntsville (Alabama, United States).

Luis Elizondo has been invited as a keynote speaker, presenting a 1hr 15min piece on the opening evening.

The conference promises, amongst other things, to include detail and analysis of an event that occurred in April 2013 - Aguadilla Puerto Rico Case Study.


This is a case review for a case where SCU obtained a Customs & Border Protection (CBP) thermal video of an unknown that was observed in April 25th, 2013. A flight crew of four took off from the Rafael Hernandez Airport located in Puerto Rico. The video was provided to SCU by another CBP Pilot who asked that it be investigated on a scientific basis.


Analysis includes that of a video of over 7,000 frames taken by a thermal Infrared camera (WESCAM, MX-15) along with radar data showing unknowns prior to the observation by the Custom Border Protection (CBP) pilots.

Tickets and Information

$158.34 per ticket, but two lunches and two dinners are included in the cost as well as all non-alcoholic beverages. Costs pay for presenters, their transportation, lodging, and all food and refreshment [this price doesn't seem too bad for 2+ days and meals, about £125 GBP all in?].

Subjects covered will include:

- SETI & UFOs
- Alien Invasion [see conference topics]
- Recent Military & Homeland Security Cases
- Infrared Video Analysis and Interpretation
- Satellite Use in Investigations
- Methods of Analysis
- Future Strategic Directions

Interesting that 'UFOs' still get a mention despite all this modern acronym flim-flam and 'aerospace' trend. However, could this SCU group constitute a more credible push forward for the subject than that as-yet observed by TTSA and DeLonge?
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