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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear




I wonder who the new UFO emperor will be? And how much our taxes will be?



Not who, but what....the new UFO emperor will be a skinwalker.




posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: ctj83

If there is ever a resolution to 'this' it will first involve the boiling off of the 'framework' and reducing down to a few core additions.


I think the search to answer the ufological question is the love of mystery itself. I can live--in love--with the mystery. What I can't abide gracefully is those that would clutter it up with trash for whatever reason.

By the time I was 10 I had experienced a couple of rude awakenings, though valuable lessons. One had to do with the sugary-coated lies of what we call Madison Ave. A toy--a lunar lander-type--that in commercials looked like it flew by remote control. In actuality there were a couple of kite sticks in the box that attached to both the dummy remote control and the lander itself. I knew evil walked the earth that day.

The other great lesson was at the library where I came across a book that had amazing tales presented as researched fact(the lad who went down in a mystery hole and came back grey-haired and blubbering, The Bell Witch, etc.)

When I used the library system to find out more about some of these that caught my whole-hearted fascination, I turned up real facts that cast the tales as just that. Valuable--though innocence-robbing--lessons.

Which brings us back to ufology and TTSA: Time to take out the trash. And with a passion.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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I don't disagree, that when you peel away all the societal
imprinting and self-delusion, you lose at least 80% of
'the phenomenon'.

I've been working on debunking the last 20%, and it won't
go away.

Now maybe someday the whole shebang will go away, rather
like UFOlogy is basically reduced to no credible cases.

But I think it's more likely that there is some undiscovered
physics/neurology yet to be discovered.

Only time will tell, and then only if real research is done..

which is to nobody's benefit (who is in power). It would
topple all religion, ufology and other power structures.

It would be of great benefit to average human beings of
course.. so I'm a big fan of attempting to debunk the
whole business, and whatever remains.. like with any
good scientific research process, deserves to remain
for a period of time, pending further verification.

Kev



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman





In my head I can't help but picture Nick Pope referring to himself in the 3rd person.

"No, no, the Pope doesn't like that hypothesis at all. Linda once said that UFOs deploy Sasquatches for recon and the Pope agrees."

"Have you seen the Pope on television? He's quite eloquent and charming."

That's my stellar contribution this week. Stay tuned for my weekly newsletter "Another Dumb Tuesday In The Desert" where I talk about the mylar industry and interview salt-of-the-Earth folks who believe the Pope (either one) is molesting hybrid children in a secret Mars base.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

Your reference to "knives" .. is that in reference to cattle mutilations?

There's much that can be learned by studying cattle mutilations.. not to
mention wallabee mutiliations in Australia.. opossum mutilations in north
and south america.. the mutiliations in Tasmnia.. the mutilations underwater
...

It's not a USA government thing... it's (probably) not a private corporation
thing.. to go to every last spot in the world and to bizarrely mutilate some
innocent little animal.

I agree.. that it certainly looks like sharp metal cutting tools or lasers
in most cases.. though sometimes internal organs are removed without
breaking the skin or more surface layers.

Whatever is doing this, is almost certainly not some 'mind thing'.. unless
that mind thing can get very solid, very fast, with very intricate tools.

Kev



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: ParticleNode

My head did a 360 degree spin!!






posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:30 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear






Whatever is doing this, is almost certainly not some 'mind thing'..


Whatever it is, its terrible.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

You know the study of the EM spectrum might be one clue to the phenomenon.
The constant modulation of it by the phenomenon seems to be a sure clue of something.
That “magic” may have something to do with the EM


Some things are axiomatic and this is one of them though not remotely anything conclusive.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: ctj83

I agree and disagree with a lot in your post there CTJ but the one part that stands out and is made obvious is that we and others, spend far too much time looking at the players around the edge of the field wanting control of the ball rather than the phenomenon itself.

I've had experiences I haven't publicly spoke about, but I am of sound mind, analytical, "normal" with no signs or history of mental illness or woo, quite the contrary my early days were very much literally with nuts and bolts in regards to the aerospace industry.

I think the reason the crazies stand out so much that do have issues mentally and otherwise, just stand out more from the crowd.

We are all entitled to opinions on what we think it is as we have little to go on in terms of facts and evidence, but I think you are far too dismissive on some points. To completely dismiss something totally out of hand, when all we really have is best guesses, hypothesis and blue sky thinking can greatly narrow any line of inquiry, which can be the best investigative route with most things, this topic however is quite different IMO.

Maybe it's simply a case that whatever "it" is, is simply far too complex for our understanding and any schools of science to figure out.

To use an analogy, it would be like taking a laptop back to the dark ages and explaining to them how it works, it would be nearly impossible.

As a species we give ourselves far too much credit, when in reality, we don't really know alot about nothing....

Sidenote ; you dropped a clue earlier in regards to the "cosmic Club" that not many picked up, I believe people should pay more attention to this.
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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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My point is we have a lot of information that comes from the old time legitimate UFOlogists, and scholars like many on this site and many others, not the present YouTube UFOlogists.

IF TTSA was a legit study it would have some researchers ransacking the old stuff from before the blue book and after.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:49 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

You're on the money here GUT, my love of the mystery was through my own experiences. With just one simple yet ultimate question;

"What was it?"

I have come to accept that I will probably never have that question answered, and I've made my peace with that. The fire still burns, but just not as bright as it once did. The best part is conversing with others, sharing ideas and lines of research that I would never have previously considered.

But as you said, buyer beware.....there have been charlatans, crooks and con artists throughout history in every aspect of life and ufology is a reptile house, full of snakes who want you to have their bias and want your money....

Best judgement and forgive the pun, but go with your GUT, it's usually correct

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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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I agree with you there, the only thing is that I believe there’s proof the phenomenon is in control therefore it won’t really be any mass disclosure.

The nature of the human being belies such a thing.

All humans are not at the same level of development at any one time, therefore, to expect any such thing as a universal disclosure on the mystery seems wrong.

As a result of the above logic, who says some people don’t know what’s going on.

As well, not to challenge my own interest but we as a species have a lot of work to do before we even need to know anything about the phenomenon.

We’re still blowing each other to shreds and watching torture and murder and starvation world-wide and we expect enlightenment!



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

That “magic” may have something to do with the EM



It does come up time and time again doesn't it? It seems ubiquitous to both phenomenology and the military-industrial complex.

I've said this elsewhere and when I use the term "electric universe" I don't refer to the theory of that same name---just the observational and scientific truth:

We exist in an electric universe, on an electric earth, in an electrically modulated system we call the human body in which we conjure electrically-charged thoughts.

It seems as if electromagnetism may relate to all of our greatest profound philosophical, physical, and metaphysical questions and mysteries.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 02:19 PM
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I agree.. that it certainly looks like sharp metal cutting tools or lasers in most cases.. though sometimes internal organs are removed without breaking the skin or more surface layers.


So, who would take pleasure in torturing animals and humans. Draining their blood in many cases, etc. Sounds just a little bit ritualistic...

Heard about the headless cats yet? denver.cbslocal.com...

www.cbsnews.com...

Even exploring the phenom could open up a yuge can of worms...eh?

and this whole 411 Paulides deal. WTF...,it's shocking, to keep with the electromagnetic theme....
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posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:01 PM
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I consider this to be the authoritative book on the subject
of mutilations:

Stalking the Herd: Unraveling the Cattle Mutilation Mystery Kindle Edition

I'm just began studying this phenomenon six months ago.

Now.. one could wrap this up in the 'phenomenon', as i truly think that
certain aspects of the 'phenomenon' involve the ability to materialize
energy to matter via manipulation of the Higgs Boson.

But that's a little vague.. no way to make a testable hypothesis...
that I know of.

One could also go with the 'dimensional visitor' hypothesis.. as
it appears, if you buy string/M-theory of physics, that we are
living in just 3 or 4 of 11 total 'dimensions', so just like in
Flatland by Abbott, some visitor could appear/disappear at
will... sharp whirly blades and all.. at any point in our space
time continuum.

Of course you could go with ETH, but I don't know any intelligent
person who is deep in the field, who has taken the ETH seriously
since something like the 60's. No evidence points to it, all evidence
points away from it.

Now the why is the kicker.

The whole 'genetic material' thing is possible.. but quite simplistic.

I will say something that people on ATS don't say enough..

"I don't know".

My personal theory, is that something approximately 15 feet
across with 6 foot trailing mechanical tentacles pops in from
'M-theory dimensions', harvests and departs our space/time.

I know this doesn't sound like 'phenomenon' nor 'plasma'.. i'm
not saying those two don't apply in other cases.. or apply
somehow.. but in terms of mutilations.. that's my present
theory.

I think that the probes can assume any form they like..or
any appearance they like at least.. so for all I know, my
'BTUFO' was just one of these.

I don't know.

But we need to do real research.. not just proclaim stuff..
and definitely not listen much to slime-ball entertainers
or MiC connected delusional types trying to get research
money for their not-connected to the topic, personal
theory.

Those are my opinions and observations on this topic.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

Electromagnetism is the dope that runs the modern world
We need a constant fix…
Cleary those UFOs going around the spectrum into visible light and different colors and zapping cars all over the place and doing all kinds of tricks spells the radiation spectrum manifesting itself.



Science and spiritually when they meet we'll get some answers



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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I haven't looked into '411 yet'.

I do find it interesting that while thousands of mammals are
strangely mutilated that we know of, on a yearly basis..
(and those are just the reported cases).

There don't seem to be many human mutilations..

But that's not enough data to make a hypothesis yet.

Of course one could go with the 'scaring humans' produces
neurochemicals of a precious variety.. that have utility
or are a sort of food source.. making humans more value
to keep alive, and not mutilated.. rather like on
"Torchwood" season 3.

But I don' know. There's not enough information to make
a good hypothesis yet.



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Indeed.

Kev



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:27 PM
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You know the study of the EM spectrum might be one clue to the phenomenon. The constant modulation of it by the phenomenon seems to be a sure clue of something. That “magic” may have something to do with the EM


Whatever the phenomenon is then if it's not real could it be surreal? Like being in a dream state. Which we know can be triggered by EM @ 40Hz. But as far as most people are aware is impossible to measure and something within us.

We have all these biology people on the board of TTSA and their stated intention in their SEC filings.


Science

There is no currently identifiable market for the type of scientific exploration in which TTS AAS plans to engage (e.g., niche physics and consciousness). Our short-term approach is to invest in a theoretical and experimental laboratory to facilitate the company’s research projects, including Human Ultra-Experience Database, Engineering Space-Time Metrics, Brain-Computer Interface, and Telepathy.


Now what could that be all about?



posted on Oct, 29 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman

Now what could that be all about?


Sounds very DARPA. The "Brain-Computer Interface" certainly anyways. That one also sticks out like a sore thumb comparatively.
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