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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

It's a very old expression.




“Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know. Close your mouth, block off your senses, blunt your sharpness, untie your knots, soften your glare, settle your dust. This is the primal identity. Be like the Tao. It can’t be approached or withdrawn from, benefited or harmed, honored or brought into disgrace. It gives itself up continually. That is why it endures.” ― Tao Te Ching
www.goodreads.com...


It's often not true of course.

Lots of people all around the world know, and talk, but they are not
believed due to people's insistence on retaining their self-delusions
in place.

So while it sounds good, it has no usable semantic content.. it's like
most spiritual sayings.. sounds great, but leaves the student worse
off than if they had never heard it.




posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yes am aware but I still like it.




posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Yes am aware but I still like it.



Actually I like the saying myself.



PS: a large amount of spiritual sayings are designed to put the student
in a liminal state. It really doesn't matter what the words say.. they
are magician''s slight of hand.
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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep




“Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know.


Sounds like what an "enlightened" person would say to his students when they start asking hard questions.

"As Above, So Below" is another one I love, when you meet the ascended Masters you find out they're just as corrupt and evil as the bastards "down" here (more so?) - As above, so below.


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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: Whatsthisthen

In my opinion, the later more 'intellectualized' systems
that came after shamanism, for the most part, ran off
the tracks.

A shaman, if you want to believe such a thing exists
at all (I"m speaking as a neutral writer, not as myself)
would just need to bang on some drums.. smoke some
wacky weed or in some other way enter a liminal state..

and even that preparation becomes mostly pointless,
once you start living in a liminal state 24x7.

So either the 'girls' (to use your language) will interact
with you, or they won't.

All the fancy theories in the world are meaningless.

Now if you go the "left hand path" of rewiring your
brain and nervous system and biochemistry to
make your body more hospitable to temporary
visitors (something shaman often do).. you
*can* do that.. but the art is mostly lost.. and
(humorously) the people who know how to do it
won't tell anyone how to do it....you have to
figure it out for yourself. Not for any mysterious
reasons.. is the knowledge hidden, but nearly
everyone who tries it goes insane for much or
all of their life and/or dies.

Keeping things simple has much to say for it.

PS:

as to your edit.. you are so correct.

People make all these really STUPID assumptions
about what the purpose of 'spirituality' is, and
the purpose of humans, if any, in the process.

Everyone wants to pretend that humans are 'gods'
or at least 'gods in the making'.

Another side-effect for 25,000 years or so
of patriarchy.

Kev
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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 06:51 PM
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originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: Whatsthisthen

In my opinion, the later more 'intellectualized' systems
that came after shamanism, for the most part, ran off
the tracks.

A shaman, if you want to believe such a thing exists
at all (I"m speaking as a neutral writer, not as myself)
would just need to bang on some drums.. smoke some
wacky weed or in some other way enter a liminal state..

and even that preparation becomes mostly pointless,
once you start living in a liminal state 24x7.

So either the 'girls' (to use your language) will interact
with you, or they won't.



That sums it up in a nutshell, especially your last sentence : )




All the fancy theories in the world are meaningless.

Now if you go the "left hand path" of rewiring your
brain and nervous system and biochemistry to
make your body more hospitable to temporary
visitors (something shaman often do).. you
*can* do that.. but the art is mostly lost.. and
(humorously) the people who know how to do it
won't tell anyone how to do it....you have to
figure it out for yourself. Not for any mysterious
reasons.. is the knowledge hidden, but nearly
everyone who tries it goes insane for much or
all of their life and/or dies.

Keeping things simple has much to say for it.



The KISS principal has a lot to recommend it (Keep It Simple Stupid). The symbiot is your area of expertise KPB, I've only crossed paths with it enough to know that is exists.

Perhaps the old patterns and systems are best lost and start anew. The "phenomenon" won't care, I'll wager it has seen systems come and go so many times that it simply waits for the next to arise.

In this and other threads MM illustrates quite clearly that the experts and authorities are probably not the ones qualified to make "first contact" with anything, especially the "phenomenon".




PS:

as to your edit.. you are so correct.

People make all these really STUPID assumptions
about what the purpose of 'spirituality' is, and
the purpose of humans, if any, in the process.

Everyone wants to pretend that humans are 'gods'
or at least 'gods in the making'.

Another side-effect for 25,000 years or so
of patriarchy.

Kev


To become the god seems to be a widespread aspiration. It is all not what it seems to be, that is for certain.



posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: Whatsthisthen

In the ancient "Kundalini" lore, the gods were these pathetic
fools, who kissed the feet of the (basically) down and dirty
'sage'.

"Godhood" and "upper faculties" are considered to be a trap..
an evolutionary dead end, even should you attain it.

In that tradition anyway. If you want to believe a tradition.

Of course "Kundalini" is a female cosmic force.. in that
tradition.

which does make a good example for how messed up everything
became after the men raped, killed, tortured, and 'branded'
the women in their lives and nature... and rewrote all the
beautiful systems and burned the books and started 'religions'.

Kev



posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I've seen a lot of that first hand "out there".

Yet I would be hesitant to think matriarchy a solution.

Though I am very cynical when it comes to spirituality and probably not one to speak of it without bias. I think it comes from seeing what they did to innocent people as you point out above KPB.

That is my little area of interest in the "phenomenon" the humans and fairy children who were vivisected and discarded without a care for their future. The slice dice and splice hybrids of the past - my "girls".

Afterthought Trauma is a black ops tool of the spiritual world of humans, the Reincarnation Bureaucracy (as yuppa and I came to call it. Trauma in life is very effective in preventing reincarnation.


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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 08:56 PM
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a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Your whole post is 'interesting' (I"m not meaning it
like a Brit either).

There's things I'd love to say--- I can't.

But in terms of patriarchy and matriarchy..
balance of course is the best way... it's just
things have been out of balance for SO long.

Kev
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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 09:36 PM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear



Suffice it to say:

The battle for the planet is genocide. It is played like an upside down version of the children's game "King of the Hill". War, violence, rape and murder are the weapons used to stop the other children from wanting to play. The winner takes all.

The so-called "higher worlds" and "upwards" is not the real goal, the real prize is life itself and this physical world.

One can see it in the eyes of the spiritual world of humanity - the avarice.


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posted on Oct, 11 2018 @ 11:45 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Whatsthisthen

I enjoy Cameron sometimes. Here he tells us a lot of inside information.

Later he goes into his personal views which revolve around the consciousness approach which I personally agree with somewhat.


He does . I felt the first hour of his talk about the game as being "strong", the reincarnation "hesitant". What he said about "the experiencers" rang a few "bells" for me.


Interesting fella.
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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Heya MM!

Any whisperings why Nolan resigned? Besides jumping from a sinking ship?
How did they think they could move forward with a tech company on just over 1 million? That hardly buys you a McDonalds franchise.




posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 03:59 AM
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a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

You should read more, there are books on how to do it, and it directs you in methods how to. It is treated like a psychological experiment. People that can make Jesus appear by one method can make spiderman appear also just to show that it's happening in your head, and the J man is part of your psyche, you also say about all the bad things that have happened as if it's bad, it's clear as day that stressors facilitate evolution, so if the bad don't happen we learn less and evolve at a slower rate. Ever notice the people that are the best in the world at things have had harsh upbringings.
If life was easy no one would bother with wanting to advance, we would all die.
I know nothing btw



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 05:46 AM
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originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: mirageman

Heya MM!

Any whisperings why Nolan resigned? Besides jumping from a sinking ship?


I'd almost forgotten what this thread was a actually meant to be about until you mentioned this.

Nolan told Jack Brewer in an email dated October 3rd 2018:



I had a number of conflicts of interest with my current employment agreement at Stanford and with other, purely conventional, mainstream business interests. I remain fully supportive of the goals and ideals of TTSA. I plan to advise them as needed-- while remaining under no long-standing contractual framework. Of course, I might from time to time enter into a short term CDA on matters that arise, especially with respect to my academic scientific interests and where I might be able to provide relevant expertise.

As I see it, this is more in alignment with my academic work and will (hopefully) ensure I maintain maximum credibility on matters related to the Phenomena. This should eliminate any financial or other conflicts vis-à-vis TTSA in how I discuss such matters. I certainly look forward to the continued success of the TTSA enterprise and I remain good friends with, and a colleague of, all the individuals on the TTSA team. As you know, I am one of the few "mainstream" scientists willing to openly discuss matters related to this area of interest, and I expect to continue my public, and private, interest in the arena.

Source : ufotrail.blogspot.com...


I guess you have to read between the lines of what has been said above. Obviously conflicts of interest with his regular mainstream business was recognised (unlike other people on the TTSA bus we could mention). Also mentioned is retaining maximum credibility on matters related to the Phenomena. I would say that could be diplomatic language for a disagreement over the direction that TTSA was heading in. But make of it what you will.




How did they think they could move forward with a tech company on just over 1 million? That hardly buys you a McDonalds franchise


Currently they have handed EarthTech contracts for testing 'materials' . If you read the specific financial filings then this contract was for $35,000 and all work is due to be completed by October 25, 2018. What they think that will produce I don't know. But the theory is they are going reproduce results from the 'black' world to enable them to move them to the white world. If you remember Zondo did this with his beard by pretending that he wasn't old and it was really blond


TTSA have also handed EarthTech a $25,000 contract to work on plans for a Beamed Energy Launch System (BELS) program.


......The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) Propulsion Directorate has performed extensive theoretical and proof of concept experiments, demonstrating viability of the concept. Despite promising results, the study was terminated. However, the dramatic surge in cube satellite (cubesat) use, combined with the desire for dramatically lower launch costs with increased launch flexibility, opens the opportunity for a Beamed Energy Launch System (BELS) development and transition to an operational system.....

It is desired to have a technology demonstration within 18 months of contract award, a suborbital launch demonstration within 48 months of original contract award, and orbital demonstration within 8 years of original contract award. ETI will be responsible for the execution of all tasks.


The planning stage for that ends October 17th 2018. So there's a lot of pressure on the Hoff at the moment.



Beam us up Zondo!

However there are words of warning contained in those documents too.


The Company has incurred losses from operations and has an accumulated deficit at June 30, 2018 of $37,432,000. These factors raise doubt about the Company’s ability to continue as a going concern.


So it might all go TTSA UP before the end of the next financial year.....




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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 06:26 AM
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a reply to: ManyMasks

I might be able to shed a bit of light on Thoughtforms if that is what your refering to there ManyMasks. I'm not a book reader, preferring to do the required work in the field.

So one makes a stand alone thoughtform. If one has to animate the thought form like a puppet, no big deal.

If one can make a stand alone thoughtform, and it becomes interactive with a life of it's own, then the thoughtform is an interface.

The crafting of the personality of the thoughtform matters a lot. That influences what is on the other side of the interface.

One can sit back and enjoy what happens next if you have built a nice one.

To take it a step further, and I have done this, human personalities are naturally flawed. I made a female one with Dissociative identity disorder straight out of the Japanese anime Elfen Lied. Her name was Lucy.

That becomes a thought-feeling-form.

That is when the fireworks begin. Spiritual world people suddenly panic and show up all authoritively in a tizzy.

Just remember we are all responsible for our creations.

One understands then the difference between form, interfaces and the real thing.

Hope that helped a little.



Sorry MM, I should show more self discipline.


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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 06:34 AM
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a reply to: Whatsthisthen

You made a doll called lucy?. Sorry but am lost, head spinning.





posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

Thank you. Back on track now.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: Baablacksheep

A doll called Lucy . . . In a nutshell, yes. That doll is an interface, in occult terms a thoughtform. In radionics and psychtronics, instruments can be used to augment a crafted thoughtform. As in the name VR. British occultists of the Golden Dawn variety I suspect may have done this in Britain.

I'll be good and disappear for a while, sorry.


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posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Thanks for the explanation.



posted on Oct, 12 2018 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: mirageman

It's good you recognize the occult as playing an unknown and possibly significant part in much that is strange, and that you admit it is probably too risky against your sanity to explore that "dimension" of human existence, apparently to explore these realms it leaves you far more confused and forlorn. I love your work so don't change your philosophy from my selfish self lol, I'm going to tip toe into the secret arts and see what's going on.









 
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