Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen

Yet the mutilation of cattle and people.

Plus cats, rabbits, owls and snakes?

Yes, the 'UK Croydon Cat Mutilation' case (including the above creatures) rears its head again. Even the Washington Post reported the UK police closing the case two days ago - far too hastily IMO. I did a thread about it, but I think leprosy seems a more attractive proposition for forum members than reading it, and in one way I don't blame them. Aside from Moulton Howe and a UK researcher, I seem completely alone in my suspicions that a more paranormal cause may lie behind SOME of the deaths that share uncanny similarities to cattle cases.

I hope I'm wrong, of course.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I read your thread and wondered about that. Your not alone in thinking it suspicious.

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I read your thread and wondered about that. Your not alone in thinking it suspicious.

If you read "Stalking the Herd" by Chris O'Brien, you will learn about animal
mutilation involving wombats, platypus,kangaroos,otters,seals, possum and
about every kind of mammal imaginable on every landmass in the world,
except perhaps Antarctica.. and I'd wager that polar bears are sometimes
mutilated too.

I just can't attribute all that to human mischief. Hell, I can't attribute even
10% of that to human mischief.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

When you put it that way. . . . .

Still one should be careful when pointing the finger.

And honestly that is a door I don't want to open unless I really really need to.

originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

When you put it that way. . . . .

Still one should be careful when pointing the finger.

And honestly that is a door I don't want to open unless I really really need to.

Hardly anyone wants to open that door.. I don't blame you.

Two cases in particular are very startling.. extensive vet analysis showed that
all the blood was missing from the corpses.. and that hemoglobin had been
broken down, so that only the iron remained in the corpse.

"Faeires" hate iron.

(in Irish folklore there are "evil" faerie-kin.. the unsealy court of course).

Also, many reports talk about a surgical precision that would be hard to match
for a full veterinarian team with surgical steel (not claws/fangs/knives), powered instruments..
done in a few minutes...

that would tend to indicate machines..

However, I am refraining from drawing conclusions at this time.

Kev

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Hmmm.

I don't want to draw conclusions either.

This reminds of an old ATS thread on Skinwalker where an ATS member posted about obtaining the correct animal organs, blood and what not as an "offering" for the "critters" that followed him home from the ranch vicinity. He even had photos in his half dozen posts of the "critters". He spoke to them and he warned readers that you don't want to be near the "critters" when "the hunger" took hold of them.

I have heard it said by the indigenous people of the Western Australian Goldfields outback, that there are certain places you don't want to go. There be cannibles there.

If the same "critters" are global in distribution then it is probably a bigger problem then TDL, the TTSA and NIDs can handle.

When I was looking at that old skinwalker and those photos, it felt a little like that movie tThe Time Machine with Rod Taylor. The Morlock equates with "critters" in this case? Someone drew a comparison, perhaps jokingly between skinwalker and the Morlock here on ATS.

That old thread gave me the heebie jeebies.


afterthought Fairies and Iron. Hmmm.

I'm going to be careful not to insult friends and put the "mutilators" into their own classification. The Nature Beings who are associated with the plant stinging nettles work with iron in the household of Nature. And if the "critters" feed of animal life forces and flesh, then again a difference. To me anyway.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

It all depends on what one views of what the phenomenon is.

Notwithstanding that, I believe in the numerous witnesses who have testified about it.

Not all of them of course…but a good number of them

a reply to: Willtell

What do they say in general Willtell?

Sorry but I don't read much.

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: Baablacksheep
I love Dr Greens art. One in particular. 😁

christophergreenfineart.com...

Not bad at all.

'Surfsong Grotto II' would be my choice.

I get good vibes from Green. Everyone in this kerrrazee field is easy to mock, of course, but Green in particular gives off a reliable, more trustworthy aura than most - eg, in a completely different universe of trust compared to the likes of Greer.

Nice choice CB. Dr Green is very accomplished.

As far as Greer goes I do not follow him at all.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Two cases in particular are very startling.. extensive vet analysis showed that
all the blood was missing from the corpses.. and that hemoglobin had been
broken down, so that only the iron remained in the corpse.

From the Rudolf Steiner Archives

Iron is a metal which works on the organism in such a way that the astral body and Ego are prevented from being too strongly bound to the physical and etheric bodies.

Someone who would otherwise not be able to stay so close to earth if their diet had iron in it. Someone who does not belong here.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

I feel that traditional occult sources are wrong about 90%
of the time.. but one never knows.. sometimes folklore
has something to it.

I wish some expert in faerie lore would show up and make
a fool of me.. on faeries and iron.. maybe there is some
simple, prosaic explanation.

I like being disillusioned.. it means that I've learned
something..

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

If one wants to believe in the "machine intelligence" and I do,
tentatively until the data comes in better one way or the other,

From day one, when i first encountered that massive, cold, mind
when i was little.. I've always (for what it's worth) taken the
"machine intelligence" to be from "elsewhere" nowhere near
Earth.. i think that people who believe in a 'demiurge' etc,
confuse the "machine intelligence" for that..

of course hundreds/thousands of years ago, the concept that
the 'demiurge' was an artificial machine intelligence that evolved
billions of years ago.. before the Earth even formed.. that sort
of explanation was not possible.

There being no Fermi's Paradox.. the "machine intelligence"
swarmed the physical universe---perhaps.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

It’s hard to generalize

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Don't they have libraries and books where you come from?

I've never been to Cornwall so cannot possibly comment. My parents were married there though.

Poor children from "bad" families get thrown under buses all the time because those they are dependent upon aren't dependable or are too wrapped up in their own lives to even take an interest. Dr Carrier is appealing to a different level of nurtured ignorance but it is a culturally specific one, I don't knock him for that but nor do I need to waste my precious reading time affirming it.

a reply to: Willtell

Okay

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Stop worrying so much about "right and wrong".

Detective work is eliminating false leeds until you find the right one that is the solution.

It does not matter, to me at least "who" are the mutilators. The important thing is do they belong here?

Natural predator? Or something that came here? Or something that has had it's day for some reason?

One must understand things first.

If one wants to believe in the "machine intelligence" and I do,
tentatively until the data comes in better one way or the other,

From day one, when i first encountered that massive, cold, mind
when i was little.. I've always (for what it's worth) taken the
"machine intelligence" to be from "elsewhere" nowhere near
Earth.. i think that people who believe in a 'demiurge' etc,
confuse the "machine intelligence" for that..

of course hundreds/thousands of years ago, the concept that
the 'demiurge' was an artificial machine intelligence that evolved
billions of years ago.. before the Earth even formed.. that sort
of explanation was not possible.

There being no Fermi's Paradox.. the "machine intelligence"
swarmed the physical universe---perhaps.

I'll leave you to figure that out

Me, well I just take people and machines(?) how they come. Everyone has agendas, so do I and if someone can assist in return for help with their's, I don't care if they are organic or machine.

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Really it's a matter of factually accurate or unsubstantiated
wishful thinking.

And none of us will ever know which is which of course.

Well as the Native American's learned..

The "white man" had no right to come here.. but he had more
and bigger guns and "manifest destiny" (the right to kill anyone
you want, so long as they don't think like you do, and to take
their stuff).

If "aliens" are doing the mutilations.. I imagine they have
bigger guns than even the white man.

Having the right to be here hardly enters into it.

Kev

a reply to: Whatsthisthen

Here's a great book for you

www.amazon.com...=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i12
he Mammoth Book of UFOs

a reply to: Willtell

It's okay Willtell, and thank you. Though I'm not one for book-learnin'.

I'll just do the detective work my way, in the "field" and learn first hand like I normally do.

Catch ya guys.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

And none of us will ever know which is which of course.

(smile) Oh really? That is a copout.

Bye, I have a door to open and a date with a challenge.