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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 06:46 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Arouet

Hey Arouet

Please, no rambling around on other topics, maybe just answer the questions, being that you are the unofficial representative of TTSA offering up their defense.


If you and your other thread buddies could learn not to make posts with leading, inaccurate assumptions - which all of you do for the very reason to poison the question and the reply - you might find that I am a lot more amenable to being cross-examined.

Be yourself first, though.




posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: Arouet

Why is Keith perplexed by a program designed to study advanced foreign aerospace being interested in quantum mechanics, electromagnetic theory and thermodynamics? Foreign advanced aerospace all likely entail metamaterials for everything from radar absorbing skin to sensors, communications and other avionics. Americas not the only country interested in or utilising plasmonics and metamaterials. Kinda a no brainer that they would be interested in those subjects since they all are components of metamaterials theory and application.


Ask Keith. duh.



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
If you understand so much...


Can't help yourself, can you.

Improper/Inaccurate play to ego
Not Playing
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posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 07:01 PM
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Let me make sure I understand this issue correctly.

What a joke – you’re dismissing everything that we’ve already received via these people, because you don’t have a piece of AAV wreckage yet!!

They’re working on detailed physical analyses of material samples right now. Science takes time, god forbid.

But we already know about the results of analyses conducted with Jacques Vallée on the samples from Argentina,



which showed non-naturally occurring isotopic ratios. They found a perfectly uniform distribution of three stable isotopes of a single element, which can only be achieved technologically, by separating them into pure single isotopes and then recombining them artificially. So the empirical evidence is already out there. TTSA is working on providing more of it. And all you can do is complain that we don't have the test results yet.

Oy vey.

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posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 07:03 PM
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Not to be a killjoy, back on topic...



What's next for ttsa?



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 07:20 PM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400What's next for ttsa?


For one, the AATIP is not a PsyOp. Sen. Reid requested the program to be classified at the Restricted Special Access Program level in that letter we saw, dated around 2009, iirc. I assume that went through, which is why we can't FOIA the records about it: national security policy trumps FOIA every time. But info keeps coming out, like the list of academic papers the AATIP produced.

None of this has any of the earmarks of a PsyOp. My eduguess is that you (pl) just think that everything that points to an ETH explanation is disinformation, because of a pathological commitment to the "hyperdimensional ultraterrestrial" notion that was picked up from John Keele during his "His Adventures into Unreality'.

But anyone who looks at the data objectively finds that the ETH explains most cases quite handily (despite protests to the contrary).



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 07:26 PM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400
Not to be a killjoy, back on topic...



What's next for ttsa?

Well at the moment, Z's in a reflective mood; wondering how it takes over 43 hours to drive 18. [ADAM video]

Borrowed shirt?



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: Arouet

Your comments prove our points.

Have you ever seen any of this type debate, ETH versus IDH, on TTSA?
NO

Only Levenda’s book goes into any of this stuff. And Levenda is an anomaly in this organization. They're using him, and he’s using them.

Also, I don’t say AATIP was a psyop, I’m saying TTSA is a Psyop...

The plan is to embroil TTSA in irrelevant endeavors like warp drives and alien material fallen from UFOs and similar time-wasting investigations that have been done already, as opposed to seeking REAL knowledge of “the phenomenon”. And the new FAKE paradigm: warp drives and antigravity propulsion (we can take ET home) IS THE NEW DISINFORMATION.

You understand none of this stuff can ever be verified or proven just like we’d never ever found any blood-sucking aliens, but can be drawn out for decades into meaningless extrapolations that will, in the end, cover up the real story

So clearly TTSA is a noise and distraction machine. Not even a lot of noise, simply because the UFO community is so bereft of real knowledge that any old half-ass nonsense can come along and be a big splash for a time, i.e., you see Zondo's mug on every UFO conference flier going. And at these conferences, he says absolutely NOTHING of any objective merit.

This psyop may be innocuous somewhat, not one of the murdering type since all they want to do is absorb and distract the UFO interest in the public’s mind where it exists.



posted on Sep, 8 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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Hi guys, dunno if TTSA is "psychological operation" in as much as any entertainment industry promotion is a psyop.

The mylar balloon, fashion blunders and hotdogs aside, they seem to be building a plausible history for future use. Well looks like that to me anyway.

As Mirageman pointed out earlier, there are serious looking biotechnology business people in the background of the TTSA.

Why are they there?

Not for the hotdogs, balloons and t-shirts is my guess.



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 02:40 AM
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You understand none of this stuff can ever be verified or proven just like we’d never ever found any blood-sucking aliens, but can be drawn out for decades into meaningless extrapolations that will, in the end, cover up the real story


In your mind what do you think the real story is then?






posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 02:51 AM
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a reply to: Arouet

Re Rendlesham. Mirageman is correct, the Jon Austin reporting is really old news and all of the rest that he has said.

I am not sure the reasons for that particular post you made, perhaps it simply is new to you and interesting and nothing more?

Having said this Auroet, Rendlesham will probably play a big role in the TTSA agenda as time rolls this stuff out.

But then you already know this so it seems.






posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 07:16 AM
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a reply to: MrRussell




Well at the moment, Z's in a reflective mood; wondering how it takes over 43 hours to drive 18. [ADAM video]


We have a clearer picture of what happened if you pay attention to the "I don't give ADAM promo trailer" for the up coming History Channel series "UAPiece Hunters". That beard was looking a touch too white. So he stopped off for a little "Just for Zondo - to Blondo" to look presentable for the Hoff and Big Derek. White beard and black gloves are big fashion faux pas down in Austin. And with that expense money blown there was nothing left for a new T-Shirt.

However this is not enough of an answer for the 'missing day' +1 hour. So the explanation has to be something more. Stopping off at "Our Two Dogs" for a hotdog lunch is not the answer either. As we know despite loaning $600k to TTSA there is actually no such Hotdog franchise in existence.

So what really happened? Pay attention closely and if you can't just sniff your armpit instead.

1. 20 seconds in we are given the impression that Zondo boards the flight for Ohio alone. But look closely. Someone with a CIA patch (plus various alien looking ones too) is on Zondo's tail. Luckily they didn't spot the cameraman behind!!


2. We are shown a shot of lone Zondo onboard his flight. But then he's not solo . Tom is back with Zondo in a hire car.

3. When he arrives at the 'secret location' in Columbus, Ohio, where the magic material is kept . DeLonge is clearly photographing a table with his mobile phone.

4. Half way through the video Zondo talks dreamily of 1984 Cadillac parts (is that what they call 'auto-erotica'?) we are shown a sign for Highway 35 south to Austin, Texas. But something strange involving missing time obviously happens before he gets there.

5. Seconds later he's seen using his phone (a very old looking Motorola? one) whilst still driving. It might not be illegal in Texas. I don't know. But it's certainly not safe. Especially the way he's holding it in a self strangling position whilst battling with the steering. But this was a "Hi Lisa, Code 2" call. Very important Lisa is the TTSA secretary who obviously has been given the signal that he's safely arrived. Code 2 means "..alone".



6. It is now June 15th 2018 12:30hrs and time for a, too friendly for Big Derek's liking, "Zondo/Hoff, Kiss, Hug and Squeeze".



Big Derek's Zondo snog was in the script but not filmed. He agreed to stand out in the car park so people could establish he wasn't a vampire and didn't disintegrate in the sunshine. But he wouldn't go through with any over friendly stuff. He's far too good looking and rightly objected that this wasn't Broke Back Mountain.

They left his reaction to that part of the script in the video.


7. Houston, sorry Austin.... we have a problem. Tom DeLonge is missing and not seen again in the video....



Towards the end of the video. Zondo even gets out of his vehicle to cry about his missing buddy as he considers setting himself on fire at a gas station. But then he comes to his senses and realises he can't mention aliens just an abduction.... Look out for Part II - "The Hunt for the Tom Snatcher"

The CIA know what went on though.


edit on 9/9/2018 by mirageman because: ...



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 08:19 AM
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Recent Knapp Interview

www.uapinfo.net...


edit on 9/9/18 by Arouet because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 08:29 AM
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Upon further study and interaction with some of the members associated with this site - I am moving towards a much more positive assessment. Would recommend following to anyone who's interested in disclosure developments and serious discussion.

twitter.com...



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: Arouet
Upon further study and interaction with some of the members associated with this site - I am moving towards a much more positive assessment. Would recommend following to anyone who's interested in disclosure developments and serious discussion.

twitter.com...


I'm following this site on Twitter and wondering if they are a part of the deep state military disclosure effort along with TTS? Or independent? Their posts and comments indicate former, for example

anti anything to do with "aliens" or ET question,
no energy talk or ZPE,
anti Dr Greer,
very much focused on the "UAP" the term itself used by the TTS disclosure effort and Pentagon program.
Consider "researching" the time it takes Elizondo to drive anywhere is ignorant BS

They are stressing the "poltergeist" activity with the UAPs, associated with horror movies based on demonic paranormal activity. Generally taking a negative position on the phenomenon - a threat.

Just making an early assessment.

"We are a specialist team of global researchers and investigators designated to the field of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon and its disclosure."

www.uapinfo.net...



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: Arouet

There more hoodies and T.shirts to purchase so I see. £40 for a hoodie.






posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: MrRussell




Well at the moment, Z's in a reflective mood; wondering how it takes over 43 hours to drive 18. [ADAM video]


We have a clearer picture of what happened if you pay attention to the "I don't give ADAM promo trailer" for the up coming History Channel series "UAPiece Hunters". That beard was looking a touch too white. So he stopped off for a little "Just for Zondo - to Blondo" to look presentable for the Hoff and Big Derek. White beard and black gloves are big fashion faux pas down in Austin. And with that expense money blown there was nothing left for a new T-Shirt.

However this is not enough of an answer for the 'missing day' +1 hour. So the explanation has to be something more. Stopping off at "Our Two Dogs" for a hotdog lunch is not the answer either. As we know despite loaning $600k to TTSA there is actually no such Hotdog franchise in existence.

So what really happened? Pay attention closely and if you can't just sniff your armpit instead.

1. 20 seconds in we are given the impression that Zondo boards the flight for Ohio alone. But look closely. Someone with a CIA patch (plus various alien looking ones too) is on Zondo's tail. Luckily they didn't spot the cameraman behind!!


2. We are shown a shot of lone Zondo onboard his flight. But then he's not solo . Tom is back with Zondo in a hire car.

3. When he arrives at the 'secret location' in Columbus, Ohio, where the magic material is kept . DeLonge is clearly photographing a table with his mobile phone.

4. Half way through the video Zondo talks dreamily of 1984 Cadillac parts (is that what they call 'auto-erotica'?) we are shown a sign for Highway 35 south to Austin, Texas. But something strange involving missing time obviously happens before he gets there.

5. Seconds later he's seen using his phone (a very old looking Motorola? one) whilst still driving. It might not be illegal in Texas. I don't know. But it's certainly not safe. Especially the way he's holding it in a self strangling position whilst battling with the steering. But this was a "Hi Lisa, Code 2" call. Very important Lisa is the TTSA secretary who obviously has been given the signal that he's safely arrived. Code 2 means "..alone".



6. It is now June 15th 2018 12:30hrs and time for a, too friendly for Big Derek's liking, "Zondo/Hoff, Kiss, Hug and Squeeze".



Big Derek's Zondo snog was in the script but not filmed. He agreed to stand out in the car park so people could establish he wasn't a vampire and didn't disintegrate in the sunshine. But he wouldn't go through with any over friendly stuff. He's far too good looking and rightly objected that this wasn't Broke Back Mountain.

They left his reaction to that part of the script in the video.


7. Houston, sorry Austin.... we have a problem. Tom DeLonge is missing and not seen again in the video....



Towards the end of the video. Zondo even gets out of his vehicle to cry about his missing buddy as he considers setting himself on fire at a gas station. But then he comes to his senses and realises he can't mention aliens just an abduction.... Look out for Part II - "The Hunt for the Tom Snatcher"

The CIA know what went on though.



When is the next episode?
))



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 09:53 AM
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A comment that grant Cameron made recently carries some weight I feel. I love GC back in the day before he got carried away with woowoo, but he said recently what will the "meta materials" prove?

They won't prove anything... If they have a strange composition and odd isotopic ratios, what does that actually prove? It would prove that they are just odd materials and nothing more. Even Nolan has said they would be ultra materials and prove very little.

Ttsa want the slags in your shed....?!! They will just use them to push thier agenda. Particularly as it's earthtech that will be doing the analysis...

So if there are any slags you know of that you think Tom and the boys would have a good time with...drop em an email!

#Savetheslags



posted on Sep, 9 2018 @ 10:05 AM
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originally posted by: pigsy2400
A comment that grant Cameron made recently carries some weight I feel. I love GC back in the day before he got carried away with woowoo, but he said recently what will the "meta materials" prove?

They won't prove anything...


Cameron is a dolt and is completely unqualified to discuss this issue.

Truth




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