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Bigelow, UFOs, MUFON and ‘DeLonge’ Road to AATIP

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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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In this interview, Grant Cameron said he was aware of a group of 40-odd ex-government officials and scientists coming together to initiate a progressive roll out of information. Apparently, this group was planning to start as early as 2015-2016, and had already started preparations with Hillary Clinton's campaign. When the election didn't turn out how they expected, their plans were delayed and Trump basically had to become the new 'disclosure president.'

But the main implication of what Grant's been saying is that all presidents since as early as the 40s are fully aware of the reality of the UFO phenomenon, and are directly responsible for not initiating a disclosure effort. The president must be in on what's happening. It's likely that no declassification process could actually move forward without him.

He's also saying that TTSA is a means to an end; the company was selected as an outlet but Tom Delonge is not in charge of the deeper process that is taking place.

He's also an advocate for consciousness research, and believes that the spacecrafts are just a minor detail of the phenomenon. This is my interpretation, but maybe the alien propulsion is being presented first before something much bigger than space exploration is unveiled. People chuckle at the telepathy/mind-machine interface parts of TTSA's mission, but something I don't see people talking about much is how all this mind-related alien technology is going to bring about the end of privacy. Every other week, people's passwords are stolen, people's private lives are being scraped by evil companies, spy agencies are in everyone's business... Are we being groomed for more than UFOs?




posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 08:17 AM
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Coming Soon........



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: Arouet

Thank the gods that video is disabled.

edit on 5-9-2018 by Baablacksheep because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Arouet

Now that post, unlike most of yours so far, was reasonably coherent.

Cameron started out somewhat of a TTSA critic and all of a sudden he somehow became what he is now--a supporter.

Fine, but the proof is in the pudding.

So even if your premise is correct and TTSA is the chosen vehicle for some type of disclosure,( of course they also can be chosen as the disinformation vehicle) they sure are taking their time.

Or maybe just trying to profit from such disclosure or (disinformation). Make a buck first, run around like Indiana Jones alien hunter with tee shirts and all and make a financial killing, then disclose something because up until now they haven’t disclosed a damn thing



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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What you don’t understand, Arouet, what you fail to grasp is that the government and any of their affiliated organizations
( TTSA) don’t deserve trust!

Everything they’ve done, from the wicked, evil MK Ultra, and all the related sinister projects all the way to their well-known lies and deceptions regarding UFOs has garnered nothing but mistrust and contempt.



All they have to do is prove us wrong, shucks, we’d love to be proven wrong, but I’d bet a worthy sum that they will come up shaky on TTSA



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: Baablacksheep
a reply to: Arouet

Thank the gods that video is disabled.


Click the YouTube logo at the bottom right.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: Arouet

Now that post, unlike most of yours so far, was reasonably coherent.


Appeal to Spite

Sorry, I don't play the "set the tone" game in forum conversations especially when it happens over and over again...with the same results.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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It's safe to say that the advent of this kind of UFO technology here on Earth has been a primary driving ambition throughout my life, so I'm hoping that Lue Elizondo and his team can bring forward a piece of recovered technology so we can start making some progress in this direction.

Materials science has reached the point where we can engineer the quantum wavefunction of aggregate matter to produce unique effects unseen before, so we could probably make huge strides by studying recovered technology at this point.

TTSA is the spearhead of an orchestrated effort by government insiders to inform the public about this whole situation, so I think we can expect to see a snowballing of new developments over the years ahead. But they have to do it gradually, because it appears to boil down to a very uncomfortable truth: that humanity has been subjected to influences from virtually omnipotent advanced technological alien intelligences since the dawn of our species, and the most engaged species appears to be covertly hostile.

Lue Elizondo hasn't talked about crash retrievals yet, but Dr. Eric Davis recently did, on his latest interview with Coast to Coast AM hosted by George Knapp. He said that we had scientists trying to back-engineer recovered craft, but that program was shuttered in 1989 since our science wasn't yet advanced enough to make heads or tails of it at that point.

Frankly I think we're in for quite a ride as this whole story unfolds, but only time will tell.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:05 PM
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Hostile Aliens. Must get me a ray gun.





posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman


Coming Soon........
The intelligence guys lie so much I wonder if they even know when they are telling the truth, but in this case, I actually believe him when he says that's not an experimental US craft:



But then he says, "if it's not ours, then who's is it?" and he never answers the question, he just leaves the audience hanging and wondering whose it is. For that part, I'm not sure if I believe his sincerity or not. Either he really doesn't know what it is, or maybe he does and wanted the truth to come out so it would plant the seed in people's mind that once again UFO is not an extraordinary object, to draw attention away from the real experimental craft that do get spotted and reported as UFOs, to get people to ignore those reports. Maybe. It's hard to know exactly what their agenda is, and I suspect they have more than one.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 03:04 PM
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No it was not an experimental US craft. It was a British Birthday Celebration 'No.1' balloon. Or a BBC1 accessory..




The agenda seems to have been for (some time) :

1) Create the illusion that the main driver of this project is UFO disclosure.

2) Relieve Tom DeLonge's huge corporate debts by shifting $30m+ in debts from his existing companies in a money shuffle for being such a shining light for two years before launch.

3) Create a general perception that various videos and documents are de-classified by the Pentagon by using specific linguistic triggers in mainstream media soundbites. This is aimed at the general population who might pay attention for 2 minutes but are unlikely to follow up on fine details.

4) Reduce and eliminate the dissenting voices of ufology on the most popular radio/TV shows and then the internet. This will help convince their audiences to possibly even donate to TTSA (or buy shares valued at a fraction of a penny for $5 that cannot be liquidated at present).

5) Force something out into the public domain that these guys know about in the 'black world' but cannot utilise themselves without going to jail at present because;


Declassifying certain information about UAP and sharing it with the public could lead to new technological discoveries, new forms of medical research, and a broader view of how humanity understands reality.


For what purposes the above are for I don't know. But that's what Zondo says.

6) Then secure alternative funding that has dried up, after sponging from the taxpayer for 30+ years, to continue their hobbies of convincing themselves and others what they have been unable to prove in the previous 30 years and probably other things.....like a change of clothes for Zondo. #ClotheLue

Also can people follow Zondo's blog.. So far there's only me and 22 other people following him. #HelpZondo.


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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 05:25 PM
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Credit Reddit when you copy from other sites. It's not courtesy it's the rules. Plus you are supposed to only selectively quote part of the posting without permission.





John Alexander gave Davis his first job at NIDS, working for Bigelow.





We thought there was probably a black program on UFOs somewhere in government, and those involved would probably be willing to work with a group that had appropriate clearances and could help disseminate information. What we found out, of course, was that there was no program and that information collection was pretty much ad hoc.

Col. John Alexander Feb 2011





The crash retrieval program was shuttered in 1989 but it's currently in hibernation, meaning everything is still out there, it's just a matter of getting it reopened.


Porky Pie Prizes to the guy who took home a poltergeist or his boss at NIDS? Or both of them?

You. Decide.



Is there more to come?



edit on 5/9/2018 by mirageman because: Moderator alerted



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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It would be interesting if these so-called crashed alien vehicles where actually American experimental craft.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 05:38 PM
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huh?

Read better.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 05:42 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
It would be interesting if these so-called crashed alien vehicles where actually American experimental craft.




It would be interesting if these so-called American experimental craft were actually crashed alien vehicles.



posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:02 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 06:36 PM
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posted on Sep, 5 2018 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: Arouet
huh?

Read better.


I readed good just fines







 
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