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The big question is: Why was Congress discussing AATIP if the program shut down in 2012 as the Pentagon stated, because it was all over the news?
originally posted by: Outrageo
originally posted by: Willtell
Like a pom-pom girl asking for pimps to escort her to the prom.
Now THERE's a TDL visual metaphor I didn't need. ...thanks a lot Will...
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Willtell
"Code 2! Willtell"
I liked the idea that Zondo leaves California on a jet plane for Columbus Ohio in the small hours and DeLonge whispers about the dangers of the mission. He flies across most of the USA and meets some faceless people who have had this 'piece' of a UAP since ?????
Well actually Frontier Analysis are based in Ohio.
You may recall the company name visible on this still from the Zondo video.
Frontier Analysis is listed at 17100 Wood Acre Trail, Chagrin Falls, OH 44023. It seems like a residential address rather than a laboratory.
The registered owner is Phyllis A. Budinger. Someone I recall that carried out a supposed analysis on soil from the Travis Walton case. Here's a reason to question the validity of her work from that thread.
originally posted by: CardDown
I stopped reading when I saw the study was conducted by Frontier Analysis. www.mufonohio.com...
In Phyllis Budinger's analysis of the metal (windmill part), a fragment from the alleged 1945 UFO crash, she determined that it was ordinary metal, but that:" The aliens may be time travelers. So if they are from Earth's future, their craft are 'Earth-made' and there would be no isotopic differences."
Frontier Analysis: Analysis of Two Metallic Parts Purportedly from a Crashed Unidentified Aerial Object (San Antonio, New Mexico August 16, 1945)
Now back to the excitement..........
So Zondo then drives all the way to Austin, Texas. Used UAP parts stored neatly in a lead lined container by his side. Over a thousand miles to get it safely to the Hoff. It nicely added to the drama and suspense. Would have been good if he'd have been chased down by mysterious dudes with no number plates through the deserted highways narrowly giving them slip as he screams "Code Red" into his Zondophone. Maybe that's coming though.....
I'd liked him to have worn a different T-shirt too. But that's against the rules.
We need a space force because we will be safer with true specialists who are completely focused on that important zone of operations. Combining the various service space bureaucracies into one branch would create a streamlined single point of focus, likely saving manpower and money. And space deserves its own strategy, especially given the competition from Russia and China.....
China and Russia have huge offensive cyber-capabilities. We've watched Russia use these tools in attacking Georgia in 2008 — which will go down in military history as the first nation attacked not only kinetically but simultaneously in cyber — and Ukraine, paralyzing part of the electric grid. Other nations, notably Iran and North Korea, also have significant offensive cyber capability. North Korea hacked Sony Pictures in 2014, an American corporation that made a film that mocked the dictator Kim Jong Un. Iran has made several forays against the U.S. in cyberspace, including attacks on utilities, and was behind the large-scale attack on Saudi Aramco in 2012, forcing the world's largest oil company to shut down its internal computer network.
Source : Chicago Tribune
A mysterious Russian satellite displaying "very abnormal behaviour" has raised alarm in the US, according to a State Department official...
Space weapons may be designed to cause damage in more subtle ways than traditional weapons like guns, which could cause a lot of debris in orbit, explained Alexandra Stickings, a space security expert at the Royal United Services Institute.
"[Such weapons may include] lasers or microwave frequencies that could just stop [a satellite] working for a time, either disable it permanently without destroying it or disrupt it via jamming," she said.
But it was difficult to know what technology is available because so much information on space-based capabilities is classified...
Source : BBC
originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: Willtell
If you check out the video here it shows a document with analysis of material in 2015 from Bennie Foggin. It also mentions material from Rendlesham Forest. So why do they need to test it again at their own facilities?So they can fudge the results in their favour.
Hell no their not stupid. Their evil as hell but not stupid.
originally posted by: CardDown
Roger Glassel discovered documentation of AATIP in the Congressional Record from early in 2018, a notice about a letter "transmitting a list of all products produced." There's nothing about UFOs or the Skinwalker Ranch mentioned, and we're left wondering just what AATIP was or is. The big question is: Why was Congress discussing AATIP if the program shut down in 2012 as the Pentagon stated, because it was all over the news?
The new article by Keith Basterfield:
Reference to the Advanced Aerospace Threat and Identification Program found in a 2018 issue of the US 'Congressional Record.'
originally posted by: [post=23682753]Whatsthisthen[/post
Tell yer what, I wouldn't want to meet "Zondo" in a dark alley on my own.
TTSA and now practically every UFO organization of any merit is now controlled by the US intelligence apparatus.
....this organization is just another psyop to control the narrative… to despoil UFOlogy, for whatever reason they have. And they're very successful, since obviously there will NEVER be any legitimate investigation into UFOlogy.
You want truth regarding UFOlogy, then fine, seek it on your own and come to your own awareness but forget about any public or mass awareness
I know it's speculation but there could be something going on down in Antarctica. What puts me off slightly is that this would be a similar narrative that people like Corey Goode, David Wilcock, Linda Moulton Howe and Michael Salla have been pushing for a couple of years. Those people are not reliable sources of information.
However it is notable that even Zondo has an academic background in "Microbiology, Immunology and Parasitology, with research experience in tropical diseases". So there has to be something more to this than hunting down fragments of alleged UFO parts (and not changing his clothes for days on end).
Had any emails from people offering to 'help' you WIlltell?