a reply to: Caver78
It is true that nuts and bolts disinformation is one of
my hot triggers so to speak. So is Christianity.
In both chases there is an easy to follow trail of
disinformation a mile wide.
Now.. I have nothing against the concept that
nuts and bolts craft exist somewhere in the
I also have nothing against the concept of God,
if the concept isn't primitive and harmful.
But the people who just gulp down disinformation
like it's cool aid on a hot day, who actually contribute
little or nothing in terms of thought or action..
They are just victims of the 70 year campaign of
manipulation in the one case, and the 2000 year
plus campaign of delusion in the other case.
i know that it would be a beautiful world if we could
all hug and sing pretty spiritual songs together..
believe me.. I have always wanted to live in that world..
but by being a wuss, and not taking a stand when things
are important -- that is not spiritual -- that is just
selfishness or cowardice.
All that said..
if someone presents once single scintilla of anything interesting,
i'd be the first person to say that I'm wrong, if there is a reason
to say that.
Now if the nuts and bolts folks talked like this:
"1. There is zero evidence we have ever been visited by
2. There is zero evidence that we have every been vistied
by a nuts and bolts craft.
3. There is zero evidence to support the ETH."
all of which is honest and hard to argue with,
and then said,
"despite the mountain of evidence to the contrary, I still
say the ETH is the correct one due to this one specific
case, with this one specific bit of possible evidence"..
then there would be something to talk about.
But you must admit (and you must because you are
that it it much more often goes like this:
"I want to believe that UFO Jesus will come and rescue me,
because my life sucks and I want to believe that.".
I have no interest in being huggy when the world is burning..
after we put out the fires, if ever, if we can mange to man
up and stop drinking in all the disinfo,
then I'd be happy to be huggy.. it's my essential nature.
I guess I should note.. I'm about to go away for 3 days,
where there is no internet access. Camping!
But I don't want you to think that I'm ignoring any responses
you make.. i'm not..
Also, in case I haven't been clear.. which is certainly possible..
I have changed my view a good bit over the years, mostly as
a result of the great work by MirageMan. I really owe a lot to
him.. without his mountain of evidence that nuts and bolts
UFOs are disinfo, I wouldn't have had evidence for what I
knew to be true.
In the beginning, 5 years ago, I thought that nuts and bolts
was PROBABLY not true.. but i didn't know for certain.
Now my certainty, due to the mountain of evidence presented
on ATS and by JV and others, I can say my certainty is up to
something like 5 decimal places.
But that said..
I love to learn. I am really grateful for original research.. I'm
really grateful to a small handful of people on ATS who have
given deeply to all of us.
I love to collaborate.
I love to be proven wrong.. especially if there's something that
makes more sense to replace it.
It's not that I'm stubborn or unreasonable.. so much.. oh I'm sure
i'm some of that..
it's just that I'm more right than I'm wrong...
and as the more recent players are coming to most of my conclusions,
I don't have to be apologetic about that...
edit on 28-5-2018 by KellyPrettyBear because: (no reason given)