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President Trumps First State-of-the-Union Address on Jan 30th 2018 - Boycotting Is Not Smart.

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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: carewemust

It is in the book fire and fury. There are quotes from many different people around him.


Is that the book where the author says he didn't really know what was true, or not true? He went with his "gut"?




posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Swills

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Swills

Fox News did NOT bash President Obama's personality. They bashed his POLICIES. BIG DIFFERENCE between WHAT Fox was "bashing", and what CNN is bashing.

CNN is an anti-American terrorist, masquerading as a "news" network.



LMAO!!! Are you serious? Did you just start watching Fox News this year?

CNN is a terrorist organization? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you? Do you know what a terrorist organization is?

Fox News isn't masquerading as a "news" network? Jesus...


You and I differ over whether Fox News bashed Obama's POLICIES or Obama's PERSONALITY. That's fine.

I'm serious as a heart-attack. The vast majority of CNN's programming puts America in a bad light to the world. That is Anti-American and therefore, damaging to our country. That is EXACTLY what terrorists seek to accomplish.


I think it's amazing you think Fox News only attacks and focuses on policy and nothing more. Amaaaaazing!

It's also amazing you think CNN is not only anti-American but that they are a terrorist organization. I've heard this cry before but only from conservatives in online forums, usually in Meme form. It's ridiculous.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:11 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

" Fox News bashed Obama's POLICIES or Obama's PERSONALITY. That's fine. "




That wasn't Hard to do in those 8 Years of Hell with Obamanation as President . The Man had the Personality of a Broken Socialist Record ...........CHANGE My Ahass......



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Swills

Fox News did NOT bash President Obama's personality. They bashed his POLICIES. BIG DIFFERENCE between WHAT Fox was "bashing", and what CNN is bashing.

CNN is an anti-American terrorist, masquerading as a "news" network.



I take what is a tan suit and Dijon mustard for 1000$ Alex.



Did Alex have a stroke this week?



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: carewemust

It is in the book fire and fury. There are quotes from many different people around him.


Is that the book where the author says he didn't really know what was true, or not true? He went with his "gut"?


Many stories from many different people that may have been lying. Yes.

Those people that told the stories to Wolff called Trump an idiot.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Since I'm sure you're referring to the recent ATS thread about it, I'll refer you to a post from said thread with a video clip of the author talking about how he was let in and how the interviews went.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: carewemust

It is in the book fire and fury. There are quotes from many different people around him.


Is that the book where the author says he didn't really know what was true, or not true? He went with his "gut"?


Yes when multiple people in the Trump Admin say contradictory things. The fact that there are so many issues where staffers and cabinet members are on different pages is crazy. It shows at the minimum that Trump is changing his mind ever time he talks to someone else or he is lying to his staffers. Paints a really bad picture about how this admin is completely off the rails and no one knows what is going on from the President down.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:14 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: carewemust

Democratic Congressmen are Back Of The Bus Now , WGAF if they Show Up or Not , The Country , and Time Moves On..........


Thank-you for staying on-topic and rendering your opinion, Zanti Misfit. That's what I asked for in the Opening Post.

Cheers!



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:16 PM
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a reply to: SkeptiSchism

What will happen first...the Debt bomb, or the Climate bomb. Many dire predictions from both camps.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:17 PM
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a reply to: buckwhizzle

fox news launched in 1996, CNN launched in 1980.... both were launched as 24/7 cable news channels...
neither were or are available unless you have cable.
but CNN came first???
ABC, NBC, CBS probably all preempted their regular schedule to cover the state of the union, or at least that's how remember it being.

as far as some congressmen deciding to boycott the speech, is that really something worthy of getting all uptight about. are you gonna sit by your tv and watch it? if the president manages to say anything worthy of paying attention to, there will be transcripts available to skim through later at your convenience.
and like so many pointed out... it's not the first time some have opted not to be there, and it hasn't just been dems to have boycotted these speeches. it really amazes me how what some find as perfectly acceptable behavior to be tolerated when it's not their guy in the white house all of a sudden are so outraged when the same behavior is done but it's their guy in the white house.








edit on 6-1-2018 by dawnstar because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:22 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Oh the really important issues they never address, they profit. What happened to MERS? What happened to all the records for the depository trust and clearing corporation in 2012? Do you think they'd tell the American people we don't really own anything except things that we have clear title (paper) for?

Our property rights were destroyed in 2008, that's what congress had their secret meeting about. People will find out once the bond bubble finally implodes.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:22 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: carewemust



If we could get rid of the Anti-President / Anti-America segments of the Mainstream Media, a lot more civility would be present in dialogues, all across the country.


The answer here, stop watching cable news altogether. Tell me, where do you get your news from? Who do you read, listen too, and watch?


I get my daily news from: MSN/ATS/Fox/CNN/Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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Sounds like somebody is afraid the truth is really going to hurt. Better to just denounce it all beforehand. Because it makes you look so much more innocent when you do # like that. Dumbass.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:26 PM
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The congressman could’ve just kept his mouth shut and done a silent boycott. Also aren’t quite a few members of government not supposed to be there for the sake of continuity of government....?
I believe it doesn’t really matter if he is there or not and patriotism shouldn’t be constued as a “love of government” it is a love of the land and people. Two totally different things and shouldn’t be carelessly swapped or else the impressionable citizens may forget that government doesn’t make Americans. It’s Americans whom make the government.
If the congressman believes that he is serving the will of the majority of his constituents then he is justly representing their will. If the majority sees otherwise then his representation is rogue. Only the constituents of his district can judge their representative.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: Swills

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Swills

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Swills

Fox News did NOT bash President Obama's personality. They bashed his POLICIES. BIG DIFFERENCE between WHAT Fox was "bashing", and what CNN is bashing.

CNN is an anti-American terrorist, masquerading as a "news" network.



LMAO!!! Are you serious? Did you just start watching Fox News this year?

CNN is a terrorist organization? Are you kidding me? What is wrong with you? Do you know what a terrorist organization is?

Fox News isn't masquerading as a "news" network? Jesus...


You and I differ over whether Fox News bashed Obama's POLICIES or Obama's PERSONALITY. That's fine.

I'm serious as a heart-attack. The vast majority of CNN's programming puts America in a bad light to the world. That is Anti-American and therefore, damaging to our country. That is EXACTLY what terrorists seek to accomplish.


I think it's amazing you think Fox News only attacks and focuses on policy and nothing more. Amaaaaazing!

It's also amazing you think CNN is not only anti-American but that they are a terrorist organization. I've heard this cry before but only from conservatives in online forums, usually in Meme form. It's ridiculous.


Well, Fox News did point out the lying aspects of President Obama's personality. But that was because those lies were material to legislation he was advocating. (ObamaCare/Affordable Care Act) So, if you want to say that Fox News was attacking Obama's personality, in a strict sense, you're right.

I have an entire thread demonstrating why CNN should be labeled a terrorist organization by the Dept of Justice. If you watch CNN for just a few hours a week, it will be clear to you that the network is Anti-America. Not only for what they DO say, but also for what they FAIL to report.

I have confidence that the Trump Administration will rid this country of that terrorist group. They can relocate to another nation, and spew their Anti-President / Anti-USA messages from there.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Byrd

Thanks for supplying those links to Congressmen who boycotted Barack Obama and Bill Clinton's SOTU addresses. I wonder if they lasted long in Congress afterwards?



Yup. You can check their records.

And seriously, you should check out some of the Congressional shenanigans from the 1800's.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:37 PM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: carewemust

" If you feel that Fox News bashed Obama's POLICIES or Obama's PERSONALITY, That's fine. "

That wasn't Hard to do in those 8 Years of Hell with Obamanation as President . The Man had the Personality of a Broken Socialist Record ...........CHANGE My Ahass......


From 25 years of seeing and experiencing how Illinois/Chicago politicians operate, President Obama's methods for getting what he wanted were perfectly clear. Smile and Tell people what they want to hear in public. In private, tell those in power what they want to hear. (Hillary tried that crap too. Thank-goodness Trump was more believable.)



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: carewemust

It is in the book fire and fury. There are quotes from many different people around him.


Is that the book where the author says he didn't really know what was true, or not true? He went with his "gut"?


Many stories from many different people that may have been lying. Yes.

Those people that told the stories to Wolff called Trump an idiot.


IF TRUE, they are obviously people who are far, far below the level of "idiot".

For an "idiot" to accomplish what Trump has in life, and as President, Websters needs to change the definition of that word. "Idiot" should no longer be degrading.

Those "people that told the stories" need to aspire to rise up to the level of an idiot! (LOL)



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:50 PM
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originally posted by: SkeptiSchism
a reply to: carewemust

Our property rights were destroyed in 2008, that's what congress had their secret meeting about. People will find out once the bond bubble finally implodes.


So in simple terms, you suggest that we don't get too hooked on material things. Just enjoy our families and live modestly? If so, I'm all for that! Thanks for the insight, SkeptiSchism.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:55 PM
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a reply to: agentblue

The boycotting Congressman may be following his conscience, but boycotting is a short-sighted action. It can hurt his constituency back home, if something is needed from the Feds while he's in Trump's "doghouse".




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