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Kate Steinle killer Zarate will be taken into custody by federal authorities on two new charges

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posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:58 PM
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You being completely right
Thank you for finally acknowledging that your little foray into reading online firearm instruction manuals and trying to pretend you know what you were talking about was a FAIL...

Now tell me, and you can get this from the net.

What's the weight of the trigger pull on a Sig P239?

Can you answer that?




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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 12:06 AM
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a reply to: EvidenceNibbler

I wasn't pretending to know what I was talking about. I was upfront about my limited experience. You missed the point and thought being right made the case when that was never the point.

The trigger pull of the Sig P239? Who cares? The verdict is in and it doesn't matter if it is in fact 10 lbs, as stated on someone's twitter account, or not.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 01:08 AM
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this man broke the law by picking up the weapon. as a felon he was told he is NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A FIREARM IN HIS POSSESSION AS IN HIS HAND HE WAS INFORMED OF THIS MANY TIMES DURING HIS CRIMINAL CAREER.

whether gun misfired or he pulled the trigger he still broke law and because he killed somebody while commiting the crime a felon brandishing a firearm he should have been tried under cali felony murder law

California's felony-murder rule applies to both first- and second-degree murder. It essentially creates murder liability for individuals.or their accomplices.who kill another person during the commission of a dangerous felony.

Under California murder law, there is no requirement that you kill the victim in furtherance of the underlying felony. In fact, any death that is logically related to the felony will suffice, regardless of whether it was intentional, accidental, or negligent.9 This means that even unforeseeable deaths will subject you to murder charges, so long as there is more than a mere coincidence between the time and place of the murder and the other felony



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 01:21 AM
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originally posted by: proteus33
this man broke the law by picking up the weapon. as a felon he was told he is NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A FIREARM IN HIS POSSESSION AS IN HIS HAND HE WAS INFORMED OF THIS MANY TIMES DURING HIS CRIMINAL CAREER.

You don't have to yell and yes, he was charged with that, found guilty and the sentence handed down was time served.

Linky


The only count Zarate was found guilty on was felony possession of a weapon.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: daskakik

Just for your general edification, the trigger pull on a 239 is approximately 4 horsepower.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:21 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
Just for your general edification, the trigger pull on a 239 is approximately 4 horsepower.


Sounds heavy. How do you get the pull cord to function?



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:24 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: daskakik

Just for your general edification, the trigger pull on a 239 is approximately 4 horsepower.


Oh really?

Is that in double action or single action mode?

You know there's a difference right?

And I hope you are joking about measuring the units in Horsepower.


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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:27 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It’s best if you put it out in the sun for a few minutes. Even in cold weather, it helps warm everything up.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:29 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
It’s best if you put it out in the sun for a few minutes. Even in cold weather, it helps warm everything up.


Makes sense but I'm concerned it could leak freedom out the front if left unattended.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

As long as it’s been decocked correctly you should be fine.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:41 AM
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Please stay on topic. And stop with the adolescent innuendo. Further disruptive posts will be removed and may result in a suspension of posting privileges.

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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:46 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: daskakik

Just for your general edification, the trigger pull on a 239 is approximately 4 horsepower.

Again, can you clarify the units, and is that in single or double action mode?
It's an honest question, I await your response.
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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 07:57 AM
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Just curious how that is relevant to the Original Post? Might as well ask us other technical data we already know like how much black powder the clipazine holds. Either way the verdict is the verdict it doesn't get altered by someone proving their vast firearms knowledge.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:08 AM
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It was CENTRAL to the case, and these jokers in the thread that think it don't matter are wrong.

The jury was not allowed to handle the weapon and test for themselves the trigger pull.

Something fishy happened. This needs to be investigated by the DOJ.

If it wasn't for attention from the Trump admin, this guy would be deported and then just walk back across the border.

Sickening how the system was allowed to work.

www.guns.com...


Prosecutors cry foul in Kate Steinle murder case
12/05/17 | by Chris Eger
Some.question.why.jury.in.Kate.Steinle.murder.case.not.allowed.to.inspect.gun

After last week’s not guilty verdict, prosecutors in the Kate Steinle murder case are crying foul that jurors were not allowed to inspect the firearm tied to her death.

The jury asked to pull the trigger on the unloaded weapon — which had been described as having an “extremely light” trigger and no safety — on the last day of deliberation, but the judge denied the request, attorneys said, according to local media reports.

“I think it was an incorrect decision by the judge,” said former Alameda County Deputy District Attorney John Creighton, who thinks the jury would have returned a different verdict on the murder charge. He told reporters: “The issue here is so central to what took place. The jurors should have been allowed to do it.”

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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:14 AM
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originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
This needs to be investigated by the DOJ.


Yeah! More Department of Justice investigations since those have all gone so swimmingly. With the ultimate goal of what? Possibly recommending that the judge be impeached? The dead girl is sadly still dead and the verdict will still be the verdict.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:20 AM
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And we’ll conveniently ignore that it was the defense that asked the judge to let jurors handle the gun, not the prosecution.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:23 AM
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With the ultimate goal of what? Possibly recommending that the judge be impeached?
That would be a positive outcome, yes
Get that judge off the bench, he's an activist wearing robes.



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com...


Its trigger pull, or the amount of force needed to pull the trigger, was measured at between 4.8 and 5.5 pounds in single-action mode or 9 to 9.8 pounds in double-action mode. Those levels were within half a pound of the manufacturer’s specifications, Smith said.
The defence saying that the trigger pull was extremely light was a crock of BS.
The jurors should have been able to handle that firearm and feel for themselves what a 5 pound trigger pull feels like.
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posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:26 AM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6
And we’ll conveniently ignore that it was the defense that asked the judge to let jurors handle the gun, not the prosecution.


So you're saying the defense wanted the jury to handle the firearm so they could see it needed four horsepower of trigger pull in doppio action mode? What would be the reason the defense would be employing the Original Poster's implied strategy for the prosecution?



posted on Jan, 8 2018 @ 08:28 AM
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originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
That would be a positive outcome, yes
Get that judge off the bench, he's an activist wearing robes.


The DOJ can recommend anything, the citizens there would need to initiate the recall.



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