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Libs, you're losing...II

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posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


Stock market’s up, jobs are way up, unemployment is down, housing starts are up and the economy in general is way up. What more signs do people need?

Omits cost of endless war and endless debt.

Time to pay the Fiddler....

I suggest you get thicker glasses.




posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:39 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: thepixelpusher

And now republicans and the tea party don’t care and we can spend and make everybody happy.


RINO's or the faker TEA Party R's , there were a few of those trying to horn in to nip it like McConnel tries to nip real progress, are the only r's that don't care. Absolutely we conservatives and Libertarian's care as much as the TEA Party about reducing frivolous spending and bending to our enemies.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: intrptr


Omits cost of endless war and endless debt.

Time to pay the Fiddler....

I suggest you get thicker glasses.


It doesn't change the fact(s), the situation would only be worse if stocks were down, jobs were down, the housing market was dead and the economy was in the toilet.

I suggest you get a thinner skull.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Did you get a raise? Or a new and better job with benefits?
I'm retired it doesn't matter to me but I'm just wondering . Has everyone here experienced any personal improvements in their life that can be attributed directly to trump?

Even my republican friends don't say so.
Oh they're optimistic but they haven't experienced any personal gains . Oh wait one who has an active 401K has more but they're not retiring for eight more years.
My stocks and market accounts are all up. One fund increased an unheard of 13%. So if you have stocks you probably are doing better but fewer than fifty percent of Americans have stock accounts or 401K accounts.
That leaves a good part of American unapproved. Enjoy that $18.00 a week. Take the wife and kids out to dinner...

at Burger King



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


Bullcrap.

Where did you get that 18/week?



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 09:02 AM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Actually, I got my first raise since I started working where I did this past summer when they moved me between departments again to work in another group. I should perhaps mention I started working for this company in 2008 ...



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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Libs, you're losing


It's not a contest - do you really think it is somehow? What a President does actually effects everyone, no matter what side you are on, or if you are no side at all. P.S. - the economy, job rate / unemployment rate was strong under Obama. He what.. took jobless rate from 4.8 to 4.1%? Yay? I guess he gets points for not tanking the economy, but it's been growing steadily for 8 years, as has the stock market. I guess the graphs you are looking at only go back one year - you might want to look a bit further back.

It's also funny how you call Obama a "tragic failure," and yet he was President when the majority of the health of the economy and the job market surged. You give Trump credit for it.. although he has little to do with it, and yet Obama is the failure? Hilarious.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Byrd

It's easier to just put us in a box I guess.
I keep seeing how I hate America, I don't care about its citizens, I want open borders and a free pass for radical Islamic terrorists and I want to leave everyone unarmed so they become victims of the Mexicans I'm sheltering in sanctuary cities. I'm so friggin busy with this weighty agenda my head is spinning. Or I'm delusional. 😵



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:26 AM
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The fact that you guys keep turning this into a team sport with "winners" and "losers" based on red vs blue, is precisely the problem.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: fleabit

It's a childish viewpoint. As far as I'm concerned we're the laughing stock of the planet and we're all losing.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

So trump what? Gave you a letter of recommendation or you've earned the move through your own efforts and tenure with the company?


PS. It must have been a good job for you to stay there for eight years without a raise.
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posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:36 AM
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I didn't mind Obama at all, he was better than those two losers McCain & Romney, and a great relief from Bush.

Hillary is a different story, America was left with 2 very bad choices that divided the nation like never before, it is obvious to me that Trump while not ideal, was at the very least 1% better than Hillary. So that is why he is President, it's sad liberals just don't accept this and move on to try and build something better that will beat him in 2020. But here is the problem and it goes back to Reagan, if your political opponent is too successful for America they will always get re-elected. So there is always this "let it burn" negativity so you can get your guy/gal in next time.

That attitude by both sides has never helped the average American just trying to pay their mortgage and get their kids an education. It's self-defeating for liberals to try to hamstring domestic policy that makes capitalism boom, which is like water in a lock that is bringing all the boats up, all the boats big and small rise equally.
edit on 7-1-2018 by Blue_Jay33 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sillyolme


Bullcrap.

Where did you get that 18/week?


Okay ya got me. $25.96 they can go to Hardees.

Average income of 45K @ 15% old tax rate= $6750.00
45K @ 12% new rate = $5400.00
The difference is $1350.00 divided by 52 weeks $25.96

Based only on the rate and no deductions for either rate. Just to keep it simple. Most Americans don't itemize.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: intrptr


Omits cost of endless war and endless debt.

Time to pay the Fiddler....

I suggest you get thicker glasses.


It doesn't change the fact(s), the situation would only be worse if stocks were down, jobs were down, the housing market was dead and the economy was in the toilet.



These 'indexes' you quote are meaningless. They are generated by the wealthy for the wealthy, and for you to oogle over and go, oh 'everything' is 'up' .



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:18 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Stock market’s up, jobs are way up, unemployment is down, housing starts are up and the economy in general is way up. What more signs do people need?

If you want Trump to fail, then YOU want to fail, plain and simple. Wishing doom on Trump is wishing doom on yourself.

The biggest reason Trump-haters hate Trump is because he is proving Obama wrong. Obama validated people’s “victim” status. Everybody was a ‘victim’ of something and therefore had an excuse for failure, an excuse for everything. Obama made it ‘okay’ to be a victim. It was ‘okay’ to be a failure under Obama. Trump is proving “victim” status is just an excuse for being lazy…and people don’t like it.

The desperation to prove Trump wrong by the left is an unmistakable sign the liberal left is a broken platform, broken beyond repair. They have no plan…other than failure and excuses. They simply cannot stand the idea that people really can win, if they only try.

Never before in the history of this great nation has there ever been a more divisive president than Obama, the damage he inflicted on this country is immeasurable. He turned “the people” against the people, and that was exactly his plan all along. His entire presidency was one big social experiment to him, and it was a grand failure. The notion Trump doesn’t embrace nationwide socialism as the path forward is a like a peck of hot peppers on the gut of a soft people who are used to being spoon-fed vanilla ice cream at every whimper.

Trump is winning, and Obama was a failure pure and simple, a tragic mistake and a blight on American history.

Bottom line; Trump is proving (once again) that socialism is a laughable farce. It doesn't work. Socialism is an illusion for the weak, perpetuated by politicians for selfish personal gain, offering the path of least resistance to those who demand something for nothing.


I have been a member for longer than I can remember. I haven’t posted in years (I’m not even sure I’m still doing it right)... but this post is so dead-nuts/spot-on that I had to reply. FANTASTIC explanation and summary of the Liberal mindset and of what has gone on the 8 Years prior to Trump.

BTW - I’m not even a huge fan of Trump as a person, but he’s our president. The lack of respect by the left if disgraceful.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:22 AM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Sillyolme


Bullcrap.

Where did you get that 18/week?


Okay ya got me. $25.96 they can go to Hardees.

Average income of 45K @ 15% old tax rate= $6750.00
45K @ 12% new rate = $5400.00
The difference is $1350.00 divided by 52 weeks $25.96

Based only on the rate and no deductions for either rate. Just to keep it simple. Most Americans don't itemize.


And you're upset because people get to keep more of what they earn?

Madness.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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THIS is what happens when Anti-American CNN interviews a Trump White House official...

President Donald Trump on Sunday attacked CNN host Jake Tapper after Tapper ended a contentious interview with White House aide Stephen Miller by telling Miller that he had “wasted” the audience’s time with a performance for “one viewer.”

MORE At: talkingpointsmemo.com...

The Butt-Hurt is STRONG with Tapper. D.O.J. Investigations will show that he is "dirty".
edit on 1/7/2018 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: carewemust



The Butt-Hurt is STRONG with Tapper. D.O.J. Investigations will show that he is "dirty".


The DoJ is going to start investigating CNN?

Or just the media in general?

When was this revealed?



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: carewemust



The Butt-Hurt is STRONG with Tapper. D.O.J. Investigations will show that he is "dirty".


The DoJ is going to start investigating CNN?

Or just the media in general?

When was this revealed?


There are several D.O.J. investigations into people and events occurring within Obama's orbit. You saw in the Wiki-leaked e-mails (in 2016) that several high-level Mainstream Media people were on "the take". CNN had 3 or 4 of them, I believe.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: carewemust



The Butt-Hurt is STRONG with Tapper. D.O.J. Investigations will show that he is "dirty".


The DoJ is going to start investigating CNN?

Or just the media in general?

When was this revealed?


There are several D.O.J. investigations into people and events occurring within Obama's orbit. You saw in the Wiki-leaked e-mails (in 2016) that several high-level Mainstream Media people were on "the take". CNN had 3 or 4 of them, I believe.


"Taking" what, exactly?

Do you have links for these investigations?



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