Libs, you're losing...II

a reply to: WizardVanWizard

So glad you agree!

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Your thread does not make very much sense. It seems to bounce from idea to idea like an autistic meth addict.

Stock market’s up, jobs are way up, unemployment is down, housing starts are up and the economy in general is way up. What more signs do people need?

How is that losing for the libs? That is good for everyone.

Do you mean Trump had a hand in all that? Well, I'd like to see some info to prove that. What policies has he pushed and gotten passed that help in those areas?

The biggest reason Trump-haters hate Trump is because he is proving Obama wrong. Obama validated people’s “victim” status. Everybody was a ‘victim’ of something and therefore had an excuse for failure, an excuse for everything. Obama made it ‘okay’ to be a victim. It was ‘okay’ to be a failure under Obama. Trump is proving “victim” status is just an excuse for being lazy…and people don’t like it.

I'm not sure that really means anything. How did Obama make it ok to be a victim?

What did Trump do to whoop those failures among us in to shape? Are there consequences for laziness and failure under a Trump presidency?

The desperation to prove Trump wrong by the left is an unmistakable sign the liberal left is a broken platform, broken beyond repair. They have no plan…other than failure and excuses. They simply cannot stand the idea that people really can win, if they only try.

Empty platitudes. You have not provided any sort of scale or example in order for us to gauge whether we are on the path to epic winning, or loser-like failing.

Oh great wise one. Please give us a bit more substance to these statements so we may learn the ways being winners in the new Regime.

Never before in the history of this great nation has there ever been a more divisive president than Obama, the damage he inflicted on this country is immeasurable.

Immeasurable? So then how do you know he was the most divisive?

He turned “the people” against the people, and that was exactly his plan all along. His entire presidency was one big social experiment to him, and it was a grand failure.

His plan all along?

Source please?

The notion Trump doesn’t embrace nationwide socialism as the path forward is a like a peck of hot peppers on the gut of a soft people who are used to being spoon-fed vanilla ice cream at every whimper.

Socialism? Well, that was unexpected. Where did that come from?

Trump is winning

I thought we were all winning.

and Obama was a failure pure and simple, a tragic mistake and a blight on American history.

Actually, didn't Obama kind of set everything up for how things are going in the US for Trump today?
Or was Trump able to go back in time and pass policy that made the economy better, etc?

Bottom line; Trump is proving (once again) that socialism is a laughable farce. It doesn't work. Socialism is an illusion for the weak, perpetuated by politicians for selfish personal gain, offering the path of least resistance to those who demand something for nothing.

What socialism?

Ah, never mind. We both know you really do not know what you are talking about.

In your desire to create a partisan, douche-worthy thread, you simply bent over and let whatever slid easiest out the back of your ass to become the content of this thread.

You offer no substance. Hell, you don't even offer any valid intelligent points. You just parroted the same crap we've heard for some time now.

"Trump is god...Obama/the Left/Socialism is bad".

Can you guys find something better to come at us with? At this point, this is getting old and over-played.

Let me address the bolded.

Yes he did, "cops acted stupidly," DACA, "your energy costs will skyrocket" "keep your doctor" "high horses" "not a smidgen of
corruption" "he could be my son" "shovel ready jobs" "you didn't build that" etc.

Next, Just because you guys blamed Bush for obama's economic failure doesn't mean he can take credit for Trump's economic wins.

Obama, only POTUS to never have a 3% growth for 1 year.

Trump is delivering real "Hope and Change".

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Oh look, another conservative making a thread to attack liberals.

This site is infested with childish conservatives.

I'm rubber and you're glue...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Most of your questions were rhetorical, but there were a couple legitimate ones among the chaff.

I simply like to have people provide some sort of background or sourcing for the things they say. If you were only giving your opinion, not based on verifiable data or facts, I'd like to know.

Depending on where you are coming from or informing yourself, it changes the tone of your thread from being an uninformed rant, to that of one that is based in real facts.

Honestly though, I've refrained from responding to your questions because every time I do you go down the exact same path of dissecting every post with 10,000 questions

Absolutely. I get and expect the same in return. Why say things you cannot backup, or at least have the decency to say it is nothing more than your opinion?

never offering any substance of your own

I am not obligated to bring any substance. This is your thread and I am engaging you based on your thread.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

I'm not sure if you know how the economy generally works.

It takes time for policy to be enacted and for us to see the effects of it. Trump has not had enough time in the seat that we can say the things listed are his credit. Maybe we can credit him for the confidence in the markets.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: burgerbuddy

I'm not sure if you know how the economy generally works.

It takes time for policy to be enacted and for us to see the effects of it. Trump has not had enough time in the seat that we can say the things listed are his credit. Maybe we can credit him for the confidence in the markets.

The first year seems to be a popular metric for the market and the President.

fortune.com...

And Trump is winning again, not 1st place but definitely on top of the group.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: burgerbuddy

I'm not sure if you know how the economy generally works.

It takes time for policy to be enacted and for us to see the effects of it. Trump has not had enough time in the seat that we can say the things listed are his credit. Maybe we can credit him for the confidence in the markets.

That's BS obviously.

The stock market can turn on a dime.

Add in tax cuts, then we have a good start to an upward trend in overall health of the economy.

Flyingclaydisk said it correctly in one of his posts.

Protect jobs at home, then there will be stability and growth.

Cut BS spending and there ya go, more money in everyone's pockets to spend and stimulate biz.

Obama kept the economy in a coma for 8yrs.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: burgerbuddy

I'm not sure if you know how the economy generally works.

It takes time for policy to be enacted and for us to see the effects of it. Trump has not had enough time in the seat that we can say the things listed are his credit. Maybe we can credit him for the confidence in the markets.

That's BS obviously.

The stock market can turn on a dime.

Add in tax cuts, then we have a good start to an upward trend in overall health of the economy.

Flyingclaydisk said it correctly in one of his posts.

Protect jobs at home, then there will be stability and growth.

Cut BS spending and there ya go, more money in everyone's pockets to spend and stimulate biz.

Obama kept the economy in a coma for 8yrs.

The vast majority of the tax changes didn't take effect until the beginning of this month.

And I agree with the markets. Not sure again how we can credit Trump for more than just confidence in the markets. His policies, literally, are just taking effect.

Obama kept the economy in a coma for 8yrs.

What? He lead us out of the 2008 fiasco and made the economy stronger, paving way for a good foothold for Trump.

I'm not a big Obama fan, but I don't think your post is accurate.

originally posted by: Painterz
What is the purpose of this thread, other than to have a circle Jerk about how much the ats echo chamber hates liberals?

Yeah because taking a critical look at your divisive and toxic ideology is completely out of the question...

That's my problem with you leftists. Incapable of seeing a different perspective on ANYTHING. Especially politics...

Libs, you're losing

No, actually it's the people having to constantly say that as an affirmation to themselves, and to those who might regularly agree with them.

Just because you keep saying dosn't make it true.

Very unintelligent post. You need to present studies and show how republican policies or even the trump administration created way for things such as increased job growth.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The problem with the economy right now is that although the market is up, prices and inflation are higher than ever. The average american family is paying far more for rent, food, gas, utilities, and necessities today than they were before the 2008 crash. I think the Obama administration pumping trillions of dollars into the economy is what set it up for artificial inflation. Hell part of me figured they did it on purpose, thinking in a republican got into office they would pull it and let it crash and blame the republicans. I think either way we are headed for very tough economic times.

originally posted by: Painterz

>> Stock market’s up, jobs are way up, unemployment is down, housing starts
>>are up and the economy in general is way up. What more signs do people need?

Since the Government controls all these things. Using black ops Stock Buying programs to keep the stock market up. Fudging the employment numbers to make the economy look good etc...

All that really matters is: Are "you" doing better? Your bank account up? Your salary up? Your costs down?

When the public "statistics" are contrary to your own personal experience, you've got to wonder, who to believe.

originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
a reply to: Byrd

Have you talked to many of us? Asked us about this? 

How do you tell if someone is a lib?

Because they say "I'm a Lib!" Therefore, judgement be upon thee by the "non-Lib"
And the polarization continues.

Y'all enjoy your hate, folks...get angry over nothing, argue with your neighbor, kick their dog...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

They know that.

Why did you think they are so pissed?

I think that one of the good things that has come to the forefront, during President Trump's campaign and residency, is the overwhelming wake up of a majority of Americans that saw this country heading down a road that they personally didn't think was a good idea.

What I feel happened under our last President also was a distribution of wealth from the U.S. to a bunch of countries whose governments invest in the failure of the U.S. Take Pakistan for instance.

Pakistan is ready to face any U.S. action in the wake of President Donald Trump's tweet on New Year's Day threatening the country, the defense minister and the army spokesman said.

So now if you do not give a country money they take that as a threat. That kind of strikes me as odd, don't ya think?

Trump's tweet was as follows according to this news site.

On Monday, he tweeted that the United States had "foolishly" given Pakistan more than $33 billion in aid in the last 15 years and had gotten nothing in return but "lies & deceit."

Could it be that the accusation by someone, who would actually know with everything he is privy to, automatically bring on an onset of feeling threatened because they know it to be the truth? Yes. Yes it could.

abcnews.go.com...

The biggest reason Trump-haters hate Trump is because he is proving Obama wrong. Obama validated people’s “victim” status. Everybody was a ‘victim’ of something and therefore had an excuse for failure, an excuse for everything. Obama made it ‘okay’ to be a victim. It was ‘okay’ to be a failure under Obama. Trump is proving “victim” status is just an excuse for being lazy…and people don’t like it.

Trump is trying to reinstall the sentiment that you should be proud to be a citizen of this Nation. But there are so many that do not have pride in their Nation so they seek to end other people's pride in their Nation.

Flyingclaydisk: You are correct in that Trump is winning for this country, but there are losers as well and that is part of the reason for so much organized resistance against Trump. The losers are the Deep State (which does , in fact, exist), the corrupt politicians, the corrupt media, ETC. They will stop at nothing to stop him. We must hold steady for the election of Trump was more than MAGA, it was an act of GOD!

a reply to: TonyWolf

Yeah, there's that too.

You're correct.

By the way, welcome!!

DP

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: MOMof3

www.thebalance.com...

Barack Obama -- Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase, in seven years.

Yeah. Right. Now you guys are worried about spending and deficits.

Excellent point!

a reply to: thepixelpusher

And now republicans and the tea party don’t care and we can spend and make everybody happy.