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Libs, you're losing...II

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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Down deep within human emotion (some deeper than others) there is a need to succeed. To provide oneself with food, shelter and clothing through their own efforts. This gives one a deep sense of satisfaction. Finding an excuse that they cannot provide themselves with these things provides temporary satisfaction, like eating a candy bar, but does not fulfill the physiological need.

Some politicians play into this need by providing food stamps, welfare and tell these folks that it’s alright. They offer excuses for failure.

However, it’s human nature to want to supply their own needs and recieve the far greater physiological fulfillment that comes of it.

The Libs are going to see that more people enjoy providing for themselves than being supported by the working class. That equals votes turning away from their former liberal politician masters.

I believe 100% that there are many legitimate reasons for government social support. By this post I’m just saying that there are many on it now that don’t need to be and only they can change that. Opportunity opens that door.




posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:50 AM
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May the debate go on! ATS



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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Not to mention the DNC is literally out of money, and has zero viable candidates. a reply to: whywhynot



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: RogueWaterC1

There may be a connection there.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:57 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Your thread does not make very much sense. It seems to bounce from idea to idea like an autistic meth addict.



Stock market’s up, jobs are way up, unemployment is down, housing starts are up and the economy in general is way up. What more signs do people need?


How is that losing for the libs? That is good for everyone.

Do you mean Trump had a hand in all that? Well, I'd like to see some info to prove that. What policies has he pushed and gotten passed that help in those areas?



The biggest reason Trump-haters hate Trump is because he is proving Obama wrong. Obama validated people’s “victim” status. Everybody was a ‘victim’ of something and therefore had an excuse for failure, an excuse for everything. Obama made it ‘okay’ to be a victim. It was ‘okay’ to be a failure under Obama. Trump is proving “victim” status is just an excuse for being lazy…and people don’t like it.


I'm not sure that really means anything. How did Obama make it ok to be a victim?

What did Trump do to whoop those failures among us in to shape? Are there consequences for laziness and failure under a Trump presidency?



The desperation to prove Trump wrong by the left is an unmistakable sign the liberal left is a broken platform, broken beyond repair. They have no plan…other than failure and excuses. They simply cannot stand the idea that people really can win, if they only try.


Empty platitudes. You have not provided any sort of scale or example in order for us to gauge whether we are on the path to epic winning, or loser-like failing.

Oh great wise one. Please give us a bit more substance to these statements so we may learn the ways being winners in the new Regime.



Never before in the history of this great nation has there ever been a more divisive president than Obama, the damage he inflicted on this country is immeasurable.


Immeasurable? So then how do you know he was the most divisive?



He turned “the people” against the people, and that was exactly his plan all along. His entire presidency was one big social experiment to him, and it was a grand failure.


His plan all along?

Source please?



The notion Trump doesn’t embrace nationwide socialism as the path forward is a like a peck of hot peppers on the gut of a soft people who are used to being spoon-fed vanilla ice cream at every whimper.


Socialism? Well, that was unexpected. Where did that come from?



Trump is winning


I thought we were all winning.



and Obama was a failure pure and simple, a tragic mistake and a blight on American history.


Actually, didn't Obama kind of set everything up for how things are going in the US for Trump today?

Or was Trump able to go back in time and pass policy that made the economy better, etc?



Bottom line; Trump is proving (once again) that socialism is a laughable farce. It doesn't work. Socialism is an illusion for the weak, perpetuated by politicians for selfish personal gain, offering the path of least resistance to those who demand something for nothing.


What socialism?

Ah, never mind. We both know you really do not know what you are talking about.

In your desire to create a partisan, douche-worthy thread, you simply bent over and let whatever slid easiest out the back of your ass to become the content of this thread.

You offer no substance. Hell, you don't even offer any valid intelligent points. You just parroted the same crap we've heard for some time now.

"Trump is god...Obama/the Left/Socialism is bad".

Can you guys find something better to come at us with? At this point, this is getting old and over-played.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: Hewhowaits

It goes deeper than this, Obama didn't just lack love for his country, he had contempt for America and actively sought to destroy it from within.

Now, to be fair, he didn't view it as "destroy", he viewed what he was doing as permanent "change" through contempt as a result of what he viewed as injustice. The methodology was a grand re-distribution of wealth away from the last unprotected class, the middle class. But from the outside it was clear what was happening, destabilization of America, and it was for this reason alone he was appreciated on the world stage. He played right into the arms of those countries wishing the downfall of America.

Obama's heart wasn't in strengthening the American republic, but rather changing it, irreversibly, into a socialist state. This demoralized business and confidence.

Trump stands in diametric opposition to this theme.


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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:01 AM
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Another thread by someone brainwashed into thinking it's about Liberals vs Conservatives.

I keep telling you guys to turn off the TV and Radio. I am not a liberal or a conservative or a democrat or a republican, I am an American first. If more of you thought this way our country would be great again.

What you're railing against in this thread or the stereotypes reinforced by our news media and "pundits".

You guys see one lady crying and screaming on the sidewalk when Trump won and you think all liberals did that.
You see one store burning in Baltimore and you think all Black Lives Matters protestors burn buildings.
You see one redneck with a gun and no teeth waiving a confederate flag voting for trump and you think all Trump voters are like that.
You see Harvey Weinstein and you think everyone in Hollywood is like that.

You think what you see on TV is reality. How about turning off the tv and radio and walking outside and talking to people. refreshing. LOL Seriously. Try it.

And quit trying to divide this great country.

And what's worse is you guys buy it hook, line and sinker. Why does the media lie to us? Because they're all in the pockets of rich Democrats and Republicans. You'll forget what a jerk Trump is and vote republican again...you'll forget how Hillary rigged the primaries and vote Democrat again.

As long as you buy into the lie that it's Libs vs Conservatives you'll never be able to move forward. I was an elected official, in the Army, managed restaurants, worked in dozens of different offices, worked construction, been involded in dozens of non profits, owned my own businesses and competed in several different martial arts. Guess what. political affiliation never came up even once in any of those situations. Ever.
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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: introvert

Classic response!

I would expect no less from you!

A whole lot of words, with nothing said.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:03 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I wonder if ANY Liberals will be appealing to voters, as the DOJ begins exposing crimes committed by their leadership?



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: introvert

Classic response!

I would expect no less from you!

A whole lot of words, with nothing said.



Actually, I asked questions.

Can you answer those questions?



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

One after another...after another.

I'd say it's doubtful.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: introvert




posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: amazing
I was an elected official, in the Army, managed restaurants, worked in dozens of different offices, worked construction, been involded in dozens of non profits, owned my own businesses and competed in several different martial arts. Guess what. political affiliation never came up even once in any of those situations. Ever.


So, exactly what kind of elected official where you that was not political?

My experience is as wide as yours however there was always political discussion of some type.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:27 AM
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What a nice reality it would be if it wasn't about right or left. Maybe one day but right now the resistance to an America first Admin must be crushed. Don't worry though that will mean Establishment republicans will go down too. reply to: amazing



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: amazing
I was an elected official, in the Army, managed restaurants, worked in dozens of different offices, worked construction, been involded in dozens of non profits, owned my own businesses and competed in several different martial arts. Guess what. political affiliation never came up even once in any of those situations. Ever.


So, exactly what kind of elected official where you that was not political?

My experience is as wide as yours however there was always political discussion of some type.


Board of Education. Non Partisan, although everyone has a political leaning. But in reality, politics never came up, it was all about policy and budget and problem solving. Military, sure there were political discussion but in reality it was always about completing the mission or getting the job done. As a manager, you kind of know who leans left and who leans right but liberals and conservatives could both get the job done. Again, it's only on TV, Radio, Facebook and ATS that it's Liberals vs Conservatives. In the real world it doesn't matter so much, because in the real world we discuss things and get things done and get along.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: RogueWaterC1
What a nice reality it would be if it wasn't about right or left. Maybe one day but right now the resistance to an America first Admin must be crushed. Don't worry though that will mean Establishment republicans will go down too. reply to: amazing



It is reality though. I literally work with an equal number of liberals and conservatives. None of them fell to the sidewalk crying when trump won. None of them waives confederate flags. None of them lost their jobs to illegal immigrants. None of them was raped by Muslim immigrants. None of them burned the nearest convenience store. None of them asked me for a safe place. None of them got mad at me when I wished them happy holidays instead of merry christmas. That stuff isn't real life.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: amazing



That stuff isn't real life.


Much like this thread. It is not indicative of real life.

It's indicative of the stuff these people, like the OP, are led to believe from the propaganda they swim in.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Liberalism is not only not losing it has taken over the western world PERMANENTLY

Abortion, free love, crazy music, permanent immigration in some form, racial integration, government health care, indeed on all issues eventually liberalism wins.

So what in the world are you talking about?

Your into fantasy and wishful thinking



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

That victim complex, as you call it, is the very basis behind nearly every detrimental change to "the left" in the past decade.

It is a critical component in directing a large demographic to react exactly as desired. If you look close enough, you can see how many behaviors and reactions are driven or derived from that very mentality.

Conservatives, in general, tend to shy away from change while the left tends to recklessly demand it. This dynamic, ideally, balances out in that the disparity tempers itself in action.

The problem in the last decade is that the balance and compromise is nearly eradicated. When taken to an extreme, on a large scale, that victim complex can precipitate a break from reality. Once thisvhas happened, it becomes exceedingly difficult to rectify since the platform starts to become adversarial rather than a simple "difference of opinion." Meaning, an entire political demographic starts to become solely about criticism rather than original thought.

While some on the right may cheer this on with high levels of schaudenfreude, the end result is negative for absolutely everyone involved.

As the left has been nearly wholly compromised in this way, the right is next. If that succeeds, political discourse and policy will essentially be driven by nothing more than contrarianism. An absolutely perfect scenario for making sure the public at large not only has no way to gain traction on actual progress or stability, but the very concept of doing anything other than opposing "them" will never be considered.

TL; DR: When it comes down to it, I think it is a much, much worse situation than many (most?) realize. The true extent of the repercussions of this MindWar will only be seen in time. Its thought to be a superior alternative to physical conflict, but its absolutely not. Not only can it ultimately lead to physical conflict, at the same time, it increases the severity and likelihood of internal physical conflict while burning any and all bridges to reconciliation.
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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Oh look, another conservative making a thread to attack liberals.

This site is infested with childish conservatives.




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