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Warren rips Trump over immigration demands: 'Dreamers aren't bargaining chips'

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posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 09:08 AM
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Damn that reagan and bush jr for giving amnesty to all those evil hombres.

Oups i meant damn that evil socialist obama for opening the flood gates to destroy murika.

Man that was a close call.




posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

The deal that Reagan made was amnesty now, wall later. Where is the wall? Oh, yeah, Democrats renegged on their end of the bargain. No border enforcement was ever realistically attempted, so now we face the same issue.

Is it any wonder people want to do it the other way around this time?



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 10:35 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

The deal that Reagan made was amnesty now, wall later. Where is the wall? Oh, yeah, Democrats renegged on their end of the bargain. No border enforcement was ever realistically attempted, so now we face the same issue.

Is it any wonder people want to do it the other way around this time?


Reagan lied to you just like bush, obama, and now trump, but lets blame the democrats for the us government continuing the influx of cheap labor to help the rich get richer.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22

I dream of fixing my own country, maybe the Mexicans will get that idea.


What made it "your" country?

Did you pick it?

Was is a conscious, rational, adult, informed decision that you made, considering all alternatives, to make America your home?

Did you first read the U.S. Constitution, explore it's History, observe it's values and character, and then say to yourself "Yes, I will make America my Nation, because I understand the values and character of it's peoples, and they are in sync with my own views" ?

You really did all that?



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 01:12 PM
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originally posted by: antiantonym

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) slammed President Trump on Friday over his newly released priorities for an immigration deal.

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"Dreamers aren't bargaining chips," Warren tweeted. "They aren't pawns in President Trump's game. We made a promise. We said come out of the shadows & be fully woven into the fabric of America because that's who you are. In America, we work hard & dream big & we must keep our promise to Dreamers."
thehill.com...


Pay close attention to what Warren is implying. She apparently doesn't have a problem with people being "bargaining chips", but she has a problem with Dreamers being "bargaining chips." That is very significant.

People being "bargaining chips" is normal for governments all over the world. The plight of the Palestinians is a perfect example.

Warren is correct about this case being especially egregious. Dreamers made a life in America based on what they felt was a lifetime promise.

Kicking them out would be a hideous betrayal. Sad.


"You can't use them as bargaining chips when we already used them as bargaining chips. " There. Fixed it for you. Warren is a clown. If you quote her, I'll just assume the same of you.



posted on Jan, 6 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Reagan worked with Congress to pass an immigration package. Both border enforcement and amnesty were in it as part of the compromise. Each side gets part of what they want. That is how compromise works, but what happened was that the enforcement portion was left to a Congress down the road to enforce, meaning that Congress reneged.

Both provisions were in the deal though, and that's what was sold.

Again, why enforcement will come first or nothing because we know what happens if amnesty does. We've done that once and the promises made do not get fulfilled.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 07:42 AM
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I don’t know what the republicans rich donors prefer on immigration. But whatever it is, that is what will happen.
Her spirit is admirable but wasted energy.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: antiantonym

Promises are made to be broken by poloticians. Welcoem to the real world.



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Reagan worked with Congress to pass an immigration package. Both border enforcement and amnesty were in it as part of the compromise. Each side gets part of what they want. That is how compromise works, but what happened was that the enforcement portion was left to a Congress down the road to enforce, meaning that Congress reneged.

Both provisions were in the deal though, and that's what was sold.

Again, why enforcement will come first or nothing because we know what happens if amnesty does. We've done that once and the promises made do not get fulfilled.


Yep if Democrats really care are dreamers and illegals, then the time for them to reach across the aisle is now. Funny is it just me or do they care more about those two groups than actual Citizens of the U.S.?



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 02:58 PM
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a reply to: pavil

It's pretty obvious.

Democrats want amnesty for "dreamers" but only if they also get chain immigration with them. Plus, the hardline base won't allow them to settle for less.

But now they're in a position where they either have to talk turkey and compromise or shut down the government over it.

How popular do you think that will be with the American people? Does anyone really think immigration and the "dreamers" and all their undocumented relatives who may or may not be in the country already are so important that regular folks will side with Democrats in a shut down?

And what if the Republicans come out with a plan to horse trade? You know. Build the wall now and we'll allow just the "dreamers" without all their illegal relatives.

Do the Democrats feel lucky on that?



posted on Jan, 7 2018 @ 06:31 PM
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Warren is a useless politician, just ask the people of Maine where her only accomplishments have been for herself.a reply to: antiantonym




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