777 cockpit fight on London to Mumbai flight

Now here is a story you do not hear very often:
timesofindia.indiatimes.com... 62354429.cms
They call their Captains "Commander".. The female Captain had the 777 flight from London to Mumbai with 324 passengers and 14 crew members .. She was probably the co-pilot on the Mumbai to London flight but the article does not say. Usually crews fly together during a line of time.. This was probably a 3 day trip.. Just speculating on my part..

The right seater/co-pilot evidently had words or did not like her actions and slapped the female Captain.. she left the cockpit and stood in the forward galley crying.. The flight attendants talked her into returning to the flight deck.. It did not last long as she exited the cockpit again.. The right seater kept dinging the inflight phone for the flight attendants to get her to return.. Finally he left the cockpit and came to the galley to retrieve her leaving no one on the flight deck... Some people just amaze me with their stupidity

"Shortly after the plane took off, the two pilots had a fight. The co-pilot slapped the lady commander and she left the cockpit in tears. She stood in the galley sobbing. The cabin crew tried to comfort her and send her back to the cockpit, but in vain. The co-pilot also kept buzzing (calling from the intercom in the cockpit) the crew, asking them to send the second pilot back," said sources.

When the cabin crew could not do so, the co-pilot reportedly came out of the cockpit — leaving the cockpit unmanned in gross violation of safety rules — and persuaded the commander to return with him to the controls.

a reply to: 727Sky

That's really very unprofessional and kind of pathetic. Kindergarten in the cockpit...

He will never fly a plane again...

Imagine if the security door of the cockpit had swung shut and locked.

She’s the damn captain! “man” the hell up, relieve him of command, and land the damn plane with an arrest waiting on the ground. The PIC definitely has full and complete control and authority over every crew member on the plane including the first officer. Well, at least in America they do...

Good grief.

originally posted by: stormcell
Imagine if the security door of the cockpit had swung shut and locked.

The pilots have a key that will open the door.... or at least we did

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: stormcell
Imagine if the security door of the cockpit had swung shut and locked.

The pilots have a key that will open the door.... or at least we did

Which is kind of crazy to take outside of the flight deck to begin with. But then again, how often does a capt bow out of a pissing contest with the first officer?

OP source 404s so :

alternate

the reportage doesnt give sufficient details [ would love to read the disciplinary reports ]

both AC and 2iC deserve one

but BOTH `exhibit fatal character flaws that i do not want to see on a flight deck

just my opinion

the woman -

1 - lack of command authority and inability to control the situation

2 - hiding in the galley when things go tits up

the man :

1 - if hitting a woman is his " best " conflict resolution tactic - then he isnt fit to be left in charge of a fischer price airpl;ane [ toys for babies ]

2 - you ALWAYS have an arse in a seat - no matter what - if he cannot remember this - what else does he " forget "

a reply to: 727Sky

Well when you are traveling at 30,000 feet, at 500mph, in what amounts to an aluminum can, the last thing you want to be happening is the pilots fighting and/or leaving the vehicle unattended in the process. Even more dangerous during ascent/descent but that's beside the point.

They should both lose their jobs and never be allowed to fly commercial airliners again.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

"if hitting a woman is his " best " conflict resolution tactic - then he isnt fit to be left in charge of a fischer price airpl;ane [ toys for babies"

If he is hitting a woman he is not fit to be a Man nevermind a pilot.

a reply to: andy06shake

i assumed that demoting him to a fischer price set = sufficient emmasculation

a reply to: andy06shake


neither should be allowed to fligh a paper plane

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Scary thought through Pilots going mental and chucking their toys out the pram.

These things might be able to essentially land themselves but i don't relish the prospect ever being on a plane and of putting the premise to the test.

Talk about lack of work ethic and inappropriate behaviors! If it was a passenger or passengers that initiated such mindless bullcrap on a plane they would be in the gaol most lightly.

a reply to: stormcell
There isn't a key as such but a code. You punch it in and a few minutes later the door will unlock automatically. It was done that way to allow a safe backup in case of all pilots being locked out of the flight deck.

a reply to: 727Sky
Yes I mentioned this and linked to the FG story in the CRM thread.

a reply to: thebozeian

A few minutes later is rather a long time when you are traveling at the speed planes do.

Door fobs on there person or wrist might be the better option where cockpit doors are concerned.

a reply to: 727Sky


Isn't there a second crew on flights of that length?

Lol India.

They treat women like Dog S*** there. In fact, many places do outside of the United States.

Seriously people, you forget the majority of the world is filled with backward apes posing as humans.

a reply to: SR1TX

That kind of sounds like you are implying the rest of the world treat Woman like crap.

This is not the case.

Possibly worth considering that the U.S, rather a young county by any measure, learned her manners and customs from other far older nations.

Plenty of violence happens in the U.S against both sexes, perpetrated by both sexes, every day, just like in my own nation.

Wow. Who are these kids and why do they get to fly big toys?

a reply to: cosmania

This is partly caused by India suddenly having a middle class that can fly in numbers they've never seen before. When you go from essentially one airline, to ordering aircraft in the hundreds at a time, you're going to get crews like this, or the other horror stories that we've seen out of Indian crews.