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Diogenes revisited. . . . In search of a non partisan man

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posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:02 PM
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A lot going on.

A lot going on with Trump, everyone's favorite preesy.

I mentioned this in another thread but perhaps I didn't make myself clear.

I'm partisan. I'm biased. Shocker, amirite?

But even a partisan asshole like myself sometimes wants the facts. Just the facts ma'am, just the facts.

Not some "truth" distilled through seventeen layers of partisan bullcrap.

The facts.

Truth is someone else's interpretation of facts.

I'm looking for facts themselves.

Can't find it in any news program.

Can't discern it on the fine vellum pages of ATS.

So I'm looking for the non-partisan.

The ones who have seen the facts, who actually know the facts.

Eventually I'll find it myself, but I was hoping to see some wheat amongst all the chaff.


Is there anyone out there?




posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Not from humans I'm afraid.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: DBCowboy

Not from humans I'm afraid.



How will we ever know what really happens then?



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

As much as we all love to think we do...do we?



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:16 PM
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Well, im not left / right partisan but i have a few issues i have opinions on. And facts? Is this the information age or the disinfo age? Nobody wants facts. They all want truthiness. Yeah im stealing that from the partisan Colbert, but its the truest thing he ever said.

Best way to figure out facts when there are multiple versions of the same issue or event, are where you get information overlap from disparate sources. Its a good place to start building a reality upon.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Non partisan man here.

Been missing you in my fact filled non partisan threads.



edit on 3-1-2018 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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Is it partisan to hate with every fibre of one’s being every single politician?

To detest the man-made political spectrum that envelops society in every single corner (are there corners?) of the Earth, with the possible exception of some hypothetical tribe in the middle of the Amazon, or some sort of subterranean ET species in a DUMB whose only purpose is technological progress?

To find the very concept of political affiliation to be the work of a very brainwashed or sadly retarded mind?



If all of that is somehow partisan, then I guess I do not fit your criteria.
If they’re not partisan, hello there, ‘tis nice to meet you.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:18 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I've read them.

Haven't added much because I didn't know what I could contribute.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:21 PM
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originally posted by: pirhanna
Well, im not left / right partisan but i have a few issues i have opinions on. And facts? Is this the information age or the disinfo age? Nobody wants facts. They all want truthiness. Yeah im stealing that from the partisan Colbert, but its the truest thing he ever said.

Best way to figure out facts when there are multiple versions of the same issue or event, are where you get information overlap from disparate sources. Its a good place to start building a reality upon.



The "truth" is like a shadow cast from the fact.

I guess you have to look at a lot of shadows to ever discern the facts.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm don't think anyone knows what the claims are let alone the facts.

I'm not even sure what facts you are asking about.
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posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: Hazardous1408

I'd have to say that biases fit in there somewhere.






posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm don't think anyone knows what the claims are let alone the facts.

I'm not even sure what facts you are asking about.


The facts about Trump, the allegations, the accusations.

What's real and what's partisan slant?

What's contrived versus authentic?



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Unfortunately I am biased against parties. Like I am in recovery and trying to get everyone on Jesus.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

When nobody comments theres a good chance everything goes down the memory hole the next day. I see it every other day.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: DBCowboy

When nobody comments theres a good chance everything goes down the memory hole the next day. I see it every other day.


I'll make an effort in the future.

Apologies.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:27 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: DBCowboy

Unfortunately I am biased against parties. Like I am in recovery and trying to get everyone on Jesus.


I'd be happy with just facts.

There's too much "truth" out there now to ever know the facts.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:27 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

What is in the book?

I don't think anyone has read it, let alone verified the claims.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:31 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Hazardous1408

I'd have to say that biases fit in there somewhere.







On my part, you mean?

It may appear so to the reader of my posts, however those positions (whether left or right leaning) are only held by myself while the System is still alive...

Personally... I’d rather it all collapse, regardless of what “right” “benefit” I may lose as a result.

Not in a Anarchistic way, and certainly not in a nihilistic way either...

If I had my own Island, the only rule/law would be “No Politics Whatsoever”.
Me and my fellow inhabitants would work out the rest along the journey.



I digress, and you are correct, for now at least.



posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:32 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: DBCowboy

What is in the book?

I don't think anyone has read it, let alone verified the claims.


Does it matter any longer?

Because people already have made up their minds.

Those on the left, those on the right, those who are pro and those who are anti Trump.


Apparently there's some serious stuff. Some harsh accusations.


What are the facts?

I'm not going to defend or condemn Trump.

I'd like the facts.

It may be a first for me.




posted on Jan, 3 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Facts need to be found by one self and observed with the proper vocabulary to translate.


It's easy to have confirmation bias.

The Greeks are a good way to study how to do that though. Your question is in the right place.



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