Blogs from Iraq

Now that Iraq is free, the people are getting on the
internet and speaking through blogs. They are
thrilled with freedom and democracy, and they hate
the insurgents and terrorists. It is wonderful listening
to the newly freed voices from Iraq ... thought you
all would like to listen in ...

*notice, the writer calls the insurgents TERRORISTS,
not freedom fighters! *

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democracyiniraq.blogspot.com...

Excerpt -

Sunday, February 13, 2005
The Results

The Results should be officially announced today. It has become clear that
the Shia list will win the most votes. The Kurdish list will come in second,
and Allawi will finish third, with about twenty percent of the vote. The
strong showing of the Kurdish party is demonstrative to us that not only
the Shia, but the Kurds also embraced elections, and made their voice
heard.

This shows that while many more Sunnis voted than was expected, a good
number still did not vote. I am very sad to realize this. It shows that the
terrorists were able to scare some, and that some were stupid enough to
listen to others and not vote.....

In a way the Kurdish gains may be good for Sunnis, if Shias overstep their
bounds, they can provide a partner with which Sunnis can work and get
back into the politica game and thus be involved with Iraq. But knowing
the feelings of many Kurds after the terror of Saddam, I dont know how
realistic this would be.

Sunnis are now, unfotunately going to learn the hard way the folly of not
participating in the elections. The terrorists have stepped up their
violence, targetting Shias especially, but I think that their attempts to
badger the Shias will only result in more patience, or if the Shia get a real
grip on power, bad news for the Sunnis. I can only hope that this is
averted though, and that these idiotic terrorists do not cause more trouble
inadvertantly, in addition to the deliberate troubles they have caused for
all of Iraq.

The atmosphere has changed after the elections, but I must say that some
people are growing a bit angry at the fact that the terrorists continue to
make attacks. I suppose their patience is wearing thin, they thought that
the election would bring a sort of overnight change, but we must all
realize and remember that this is a process that will take some time.


MORE BLOGS FROM FREE IRAQ AT THE SITE -
democracyiniraq.blogspot.com...

Listen to what the Iraqis think of the new freedom.
Listen to what the Iraqis think of the insurgents.
They want people to listen to them, now that they
are free to speak.

[edit on 2/14/2005 by FlyersFan]

[edit on 2/14/2005 by FlyersFan]

I think this is another "scam" set up by the Bush Administration to help improve his approval rating and the approval rating for the War...



*sarcasm off*


I just wanted to be the first to say that...

wow what a huge bunch of bull...i mean comon what a giant load of propaganda

i would not believe that for a second...

Awwwwwwww poor firestarter. Truth hurts, doesn't it?
Iraqis are now free. They want to be heard.
They hate the insurgents. They say to 'be patient' with the process.
Listen up folks ... it's the IRAQIs getting online and
telling ya' what is going on and how they feel
... and they feel GOOD and FREE!

Dear Al-Qaeda
Go to hell you pathetic bastards.

Flyers Fan, you haven't commented on whether you believe this or not so I won't rush to judgement, but based on some of your other posts, I think you do. Let me ask you this, is it possible, in your world, that this just might be what others are calling it, propaganda??

Peace

u ignorant retard....the iraqis arent free, is free when some other country occupies your land and takes ur oil?? they r not free and they do not feel "good" about it

who do u think the insurgents r?? citizens, people defending themselves against an opressive force invading their country

Originally posted by firestarter666
who do u think the insurgents r?? citizens, people defending themselves against an opressive force invading their country

Open a dictionary. Insurgents are people who fight against their
own government. The insurgents are terrorists murdering Iraqis
(bakers and barbers were their favorite targets last week).
Americans aren't oppressing Iraqis, we brought freedom AND
the blogs coming out of newly free Iraq prove it to be so.

Read up firestarter. Educate yourself on how the IRaqis really
feel now. Look at the blogs from the freed Iraqis. They now
have free speech and they are using it. Read how they feel.
It's all right there in front of you. USe the link. They hate
the insurgents and they don't consider them freedom fighters.
They have freedom now. The insurgents want to take it away.

As far as your insult ... I'm laughing at you!

Originally posted by Dr Love
is it possible, in your world, that this just might be
what others are calling it, propaganda??

Nope. I don't believe it is. Of course people here
will take anything that is positive in Iraq or anything
positive about America and dismiss it as 'propaganda'
but anything negative MUST be real ... right?

Iraq the Model is another good one:

iraqthemodel.blogspot.com...

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Iraq the Model is another good one:

You betchya'!! Here is an excerpt from it!
*notice again - the insurgents are TERRORISTS and the Iraqi
is VERY happy to be free!*

Iraq the Model - by Muhammed
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Add to this that the candidates of small parties had to accept risking
their lives as we made ourselves easy targets for the terrorists; we
don't have the adequate personal protection like the famous figures
who live in heavily protected quarters and protected by hundreds of
bodyguards.

While candidates like me live among the people and walk on the
streets, in the past few weeks we saw several Iraqi politicians
targeted and assassinated, but our participation was more
important than anything else because it gave more credit to the
elections and we're happy with that role.

The world will remember the number "7461"; these were
the candidates who didn't submit for blackmailing and decided
to take the responsibility despite the threats and the dangers.

I see that we didn't lose at all, on the contrary, we won and
the only loser is terror and its dictators allies.

We will always have the chance to participate again and our
voice will always be heard and we will not give up on what
we started.

No one will stop the train of democracy and those who stand
against the change will soon be nothing but forgotten.
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[edit on 2/14/2005 by FlyersFan]

how can american's honestly convince themselves that they're acutally doing the world a favour by spreading their "freedom" and "democracy" when they have a very weak idea of these concepts in their own country.
F**k the patriots who think america is saving the world when really its the west's (particularly america's) economic bullying which got the world into this mess in the first place!

I cant believe we're gonna see another nation of pathetic flag-wavers dancing around shouting "We're free!", thinking all their problems have been solved because of the noble american government.

If they were really free then why dont they ask for their oil back and tell the american occupiers to p*ss off!??

Welcoming Iraqis To The Internet

I am looking forward to seeing lots more Iraqis on the Internet.

And more than anything, I'm really looking forward to what they have to say about those who opposed the war, refer to them repeatedly with bigoted epithets, called for nuking them and supporting the insurgents and terrorists.

Oh yes, this is going to be very interesting reading indeed.

I for one, already have a list in progress of threads I want Iraqis to see.

I wouldn't want them to be unaware of how so many of my ATS members feel about them.

[edit on 2/16/2005 by Majic]

U R sour grapes lost-soul. Sour grapes.
The Iraqis are free. They are happy.
They are speaking out about it. Too bad
it makes some folks unhappy that they are
so happy.

If you are implying that i have something against the iraqi citizens you are sadly mistaken. I happen to have a good friend who is an iraqi where i work and we get on just fine.
My problem lies with the fact that american patriots will use any old BS to try and convince themselves that what their government did out there was justified.

Yes, iraq has had elections and yes its citizens are free to a certain extent. So you can justify the war in that respect. But what about the civillian death toll. A death toll is much more than 6 little digits on your screen. It represents the tradgic loss of over 100,000 iraqi's who had to enndure sadams brutal dictatorship all their lives only to be killed by the bullets of the most advanced army in the world, which should be able to distinguish between soldier and civillian. So no, i dont have anything against iraqi citizens. They have my full sympathy and i'm happy their elections went well. Yet it will be interesting to see weather their government does any better than western politics which is an utter sham.

And more than anything, I'm really looking forward to what they have to say about those who opposed the war, refer to them repeatedly with bigoted epithets, called for nuking them and supporting the insurgents and terrorists

Where the hell did you get that idea from?

Sarcastic B*stard

Originally posted by lost_soul
It represents the tradgic loss of over 100,000 iraqi's
who had to enndure sadams brutal dictatorship all
their lives only to be killed by the bullets of the most
advanced army in the world,

That figure has been debunked. Coalition soldiers
did not kill 100,000 Iraqi civilians. That figure is
impossible and completely wrong. It has been
proven so.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by lost_soul
It represents the tradgic loss of over 100,000 iraqi's
who had to enndure sadams brutal dictatorship all
their lives only to be killed by the bullets of the most
advanced army in the world,

That figure has been debunked. Coalition soldiers
did not kill 100,000 Iraqi civilians. That figure is
impossible and completely wrong. It has been
proven so.

Where has it been proven?

If only you could see past the american flag which has been constantly ingrained into your psyche since the day you were born.

www.newscientist.com...

Aiming For The Foot

Originally posted by lost_soul
Where the hell did you get that idea from?

Reading posts here on ATS. Including yours.

Shooting The Other Foot

Originally posted by lost_soul
Sarcastic B*stard

Read these:

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If you have a problem with them, then please go away.

Your name-calling identifies you as someone who has little to offer.

If that's all you've got, you've got nothing. Other than a repeatedly discredited claim of 100,000 deaths, which is less than worthless.

I recommend improving your posting style rather than earning my disrespect in your first two weeks here.


Edit: For your perusal: 100,000 Dead—or 8,000





[edit on 2/16/2005 by Majic]

I apoligize for the petty name calling but you are a bit of a pompous prat. Just to clear things up I DO NOT support the insurgents or the nuking of iraq. I stand by my beliefs that the iraq war was unjust and a civillian death toll, however small, is not by any means "less than worthless".

Oh and by the way here is an excerpt of the article you linked me to....

The Johns Hopkins team had to confront this problem. One of the 33 clusters they selected happened to be in Fallujah, one of the most heavily bombed and shelled cities in all Iraq. Was it legitimate to extrapolate from a sample that included such an extreme case? More awkward yet, it turned out, two-thirds of all the violent deaths that the team recorded took place in the Fallujah cluster. They settled the dilemma by issuing two sets of figures—one with Fallujah, the other without. The estimate of 98,000 deaths is the extrapolation from the set that does not include Fallujah. What's the extrapolation for the set that does include Fallujah? They don't exactly say.

So bombing the hell outa fallujah and not including it in the death toll was ok was it?

I definitly agree iraqi's are glad they are free, who wouldn't be? The FACT is we didn't start the war to save those people we were told the war was to protect us and go after the terrorist who attacked us remember that flyer! Just because these people are free that doesn't justify our president sending us to war, sending people like your family members that fought in the wars of the past, for a lie.