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Declaring that a united Jerusalem is Israeli territory ends that plan.
Don't forget, all of Jerusalem was originally Palestinian territory under the UN's partition plan.
And the majority of East Jerusalem's citizens are still Palestinians to this day.
I find the logic of calling this situation "blackmail" to be fascinating.
I think the Palestinians are tragic victims here. They're having their land stolen from them, and if they don't take it with a smile, then they're going to be crushed even further and more quickly.
originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: antiantonym
I find the logic of calling this situation "blackmail" to be fascinating.
It's better defined as coercion rather than blackmail.
But that idiot Trump just can't stop pissing people off.
I think the Palestinians are tragic victims here. They're having their land stolen from them, and if they don't take it with a smile, then they're going to be crushed even further and more quickly.
Yep, they're systematically oppressed and collectively punished, no one does anything, and those responsible are constantly given a pass.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Metallicus
Also, the 3rd option is literally a slow form of ethnic cleansing.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: MaxMech
Don't forget, all of Jerusalem was originally Palestinian territory under the UN's partition plan. And the majority of East Jerusalem's citizens are still Palestinians to this day.
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: antiantonym
the notion that " jerusulem = the capital of isreal " has ""singlehandedly destroyed the very foundations of peace " is the absolute confirmation that the " palestinians " dont want peace
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: antiantonym
the notion that " jerusulem = the capital of isreal " has ""singlehandedly destroyed the very foundations of peace " is the absolute confirmation that the " palestinians " dont want peace
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: pavil
just out of curiosity - lets turn it around , should isreal :
A - destroy everyone else
B - make a deal thats not ideal for isereal
originally posted by: pavil
The Palestinians will have to eventually take a deal that is not everything they wish for.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: Metallicus
Also, the 3rd option is literally a slow form of ethnic cleansing.
But herein lies the problem with the Middle East: There is so much emphasis and priority to clinging to one's religious affiliation, or country affiliation, or tribal affiliation, that it has been a cause of perpetual--and I mean that in the strictest use of the definition--war in that region.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: MaxMech
Don't forget, all of Jerusalem was originally Palestinian territory under the UN's partition plan. And the majority of East Jerusalem's citizens are still Palestinians to this day.
All of Jerusalem was supposed to be neutral territory, controlled by the UN and not any individual nation.
originally posted by: MaxMech
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Declaring that a united Jerusalem is Israeli territory ends that plan.
But no one declared anything about United Jerusalem.
The only thing that was said is that the embassy is moving to West Jerusalem. This in no way pervents from East Jerusalem to be future Palestinian capital.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
(called "Maghrebi Jews") are often discriminated against by the European Ashkenazi Jews who came back in the last 100 years.
This conversion of the kingdom of the Khazars has a considerable importance regarding the origin of those Jews who dwell in the countries along the Danube and southern Russia. These regions enclose great masses of Jewish populations which have in all probability nothing or almost nothing that is anthropologically Jewish in them.
Source: Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Yeah, I'd forgotten that part. Some people still want Jerusalem to be an international city (including myself), but I don't see that happening now. Then again, the leaked document from November between the Saudis and Israelis (HERE) proposed just that.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Israel annexed East Jerusalem years ago and Israel itself considers the united Jerusalem as its territory. The rest of the world simply doesn't formally recognize their claim. And to reinforce that stance, they keep their official embassies in Tel Aviv (while several have consulates in Jerusalem).
But did the European Ashkenazi Jews really "come back" to Israel, or is this their first time there?
So there are two types of Jews, those that are "Converts to Judaism" , and those that are "Descendants of the original inhabitants of that land that is now Israel."