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Tehran's brutallity opens path for Trump to flex on Iran

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posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 09:48 AM
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Wasn't it the U.S interfering with Iran that gave these ayatollahs and religion so much power in the first place?

Maybe the U.S for once could stay home, mind it's own business and focus on cleaning up the # in its own backyard.

Honestly most of the modern worlds ills come back to the U.S being the cause. When you're not busy making a mess of your own country, you're messing up the countries of others.

Those who forget history, are condemned to repeat it. Stop trying to be the world police and thinking you're the self appointed leaders of the so called freeworld.




posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 10:08 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Funny how every time a foreign country has or, is claimed, to have some internal turmoil, which is yet to confirmed as fact and is within the scale claimed, suddenly its an excuse/reason for the US govt to start meddling in that countries internal affairs.

With such self serving claim as this, its amazing how some in the US are still not yet wise enough, experienced enough, inadequately read, ignorant of but seemingly, gullible enough to believe the US govt has the right to invade the country, throw the local govt out, install their own stooge to run the place and sell every asset worth having in the country, to US corporations for peanuts.

Such people must have come down in the last shower to be this far out of touch with how the US govt behaves these situations ??

I cant believe this.


This is the thinking Obama fostered and bred from a self imposed position of weakness, time to flex Super Power might and protect US interests. Ending rogue regimes nuclear ambitions are at the top of the list. Iran made a mistake, Trump is watching, any change in Iran has global implications because lil Rocket Boy is watching also.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: Xcathdra

The UN is already checking out the USA. source


Which is why I said those schmucks at the UN / ICC. Since the UN is NOT a democratic entity the have no room to lecture.

Poverty in the US is based on the basic minimum income a person who need to just survive / get by and it varies from state to state, including housing.

When you have people making 80k + a year who are living in homeless shelters in San Francisco because the cost of housing is to high it becomes almost impossible to create a universal standard.

The UN / ICC is restricted to very specif criteria - genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity.

Poverty is not in their jurisdiction. The arrest and prosecution of protestors is not in their jurisdiction. Now if the government in question sends in the military and secret police and just open fire on civilians the you move into the areas that are covered (extrajudicial killings).



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 10:17 AM
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America ( and England) have the least moral authority of any country to mess with Iran's affairs. We removed Mossadegh, installed the Shah who was too brutal even by our standards which left the power vacuum to be filled by the Ayatollah Khomeini. The US does foreign policy like trying to bake a cake in ten minutes at 500 degrees....we need to learn to work with countries instead of imposing our will on them.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 10:19 AM
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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Publicly supporting the protestors and telling the Iranian government the world is watching how they treat the protestors is not interfering in Iran's affairs..



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 10:28 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP



The world's a nasty place. For most of them seventy years there was this little thing called a Cold War going on. You appear to be a left over from the enemy side. 5th columnists are easy to spot, they instinctually jump right in and start listing off how bad the US is no matter what the subject is. N Korea, Iran, immigration, you name it, the same old anti-US rhetoric gets spewed forth with zero subtlety.


Throwing around words like communist makes you feel more american does it? Just because people can spot problems in our own country doesn't make us communists. The whole "red" scare was a fabrication. Read a little, you might be surprised how the US did everything it could to subvert legitimate governments, just to perpetuate the "myth" of the communist. The US even turned it's back on revolutions which became communist only AFTER we ignored them.

The world isn't black and white (or red.) It's subtle shades of subterfuge and manipulation, and you've fallen for it.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 11:20 AM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP

This is the thinking Obama fostered and bred from a self imposed position of weakness, time to flex Super Power might and protect US interests. Ending rogue regimes nuclear ambitions are at the top of the list. Iran made a mistake, Trump is watching, any change in Iran has global implications because lil Rocket Boy is watching also.


Obama / Soros / Hillary / CIA / McCain flexed "Super Power might" to "protect US interests" in Syria etc.

Half a million dead.

Millions of refugees poured into Europe.

And you want to repeat the pattern, continue pushing the Soros Agenda?


Well I aint fighting there, are you you want it so bad?

I aint paying for it, you've got my share covered?

How many millions dead before you're satisfied with the magnificence our "Super Power" (Evil Empire) might?
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posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP


This is the thinking Obama fostered and bred from a self imposed position of weakness, time to flex Super Power might and protect US interests. Ending rogue regimes nuclear ambitions are at the top of the list. Iran made a mistake, Trump is watching, any change in Iran has global implications because lil Rocket Boy is watching also.

Thanks, CNN.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: TinfoilTP



The world's a nasty place. For most of them seventy years there was this little thing called a Cold War going on. You appear to be a left over from the enemy side. 5th columnists are easy to spot, they instinctually jump right in and start listing off how bad the US is no matter what the subject is. N Korea, Iran, immigration, you name it, the same old anti-US rhetoric gets spewed forth with zero subtlety.


Throwing around words like communist makes you feel more american does it? Just because people can spot problems in our own country doesn't make us communists. The whole "red" scare was a fabrication. Read a little, you might be surprised how the US did everything it could to subvert legitimate governments, just to perpetuate the "myth" of the communist. The US even turned it's back on revolutions which became communist only AFTER we ignored them.

The world isn't black and white (or red.) It's subtle shades of subterfuge and manipulation, and you've fallen for it.


funny is in the case of muslims they like easy to be surpsily doing the liberal thing and start talking about bringing DEMOCRATS to other countrys
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posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Publicly supporting the protestors and telling the Iranian government the world is watching how they treat the protestors is not interfering in Iran's affairs..


No doubt.

But twisting it into military intervention propaganda is is.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 12:12 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Publicly supporting the protestors and telling the Iranian government the world is watching how they treat the protestors is not interfering in Iran's affairs..


No doubt.

But twisting it into military intervention propaganda is is.


Follow a logical path to conclusions....
Trump tweets he is watching Iran.
The regime kills protestors (already done, the extent not public yet)
Justification for ending any and all Obama nuclear deals
Creates vacuum for nuclear deterrent policy
Nuclear research facilities go boom.

No boots, no invasion, if Iran escalates it further well that is on them.

Rocket Boy looks on and evaluates Trump's determination and possible actions....

Win win all the way around. As they say, never let a crisis go to waste.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
As they say, never let a crisis go to waste.


Rock on Rocketboy Rahm Emanual!

You ARE a closet member of Soros Cabal afterall!




posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Publicly supporting the protestors and telling the Iranian government the world is watching how they treat the protestors is not interfering in Iran's affairs..


No doubt.

But twisting it into military intervention propaganda is is.


Like calling for the destruction of Israel?



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: PsychicCroMag

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: carewemust

Sure the hell beat them down in 2009.

Not to mention Evin Prison.

A political prison.

I remember the beautiful woman Neta shot down by the Iran govt in 2009 during the green revolution-BO said it was none of our business the Iranian people crying out for help in their fight for freedom. He supported the suppression of freedom.


It is none of the US buisness.

Lately, everytime the USA gets involved in another countrys "fight for freedom" it ends up in a even worse state than before!

Let Iranians deal with there own problems, the USA has enough of its own to deal with.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Get me up to speed.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Willtell
Who has Iran attacked in the last few decades?

America has invaded numerous countries

Vietnam
Cuba
Panama
Grenada
Iraq
Afghanistan
If you count the secret wars it triples


Iran

None


The Iranian regime remains committed to the use of violent terrorism, brutal human rights violations, oppressive measures against its own people, and dark methods of subterfuge, all in the name of emboldening its nuclear ambitions. Tehran's sponsorship of terrorism has far-reaching tentacles that get's good people DEAD.

America has goals and missions to stop these kinds of evils from growing since by them growing, people will die, including people we are allied with and have missions and goals to protect them.

This is the reason America must be involved because to do nothing is just like if you do nothing when someone you care about is being abused or harmed or even murdered. Letting evil do whatever it wants just isn't acceptable to people who care about right and wrong, and decency.


sounds like the same bull# bush spouted about Iraq.......... and look where that got the USA and UK? Got us into the biggest foriegn policy blunder since vietnam.


I will pass on this.


The world has bigger fish to fry like a deranged fat little Korean who actually does have Nukes and threatens to use them every 5 seconds.



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Willtell
Who has Iran attacked in the last few decades?

America has invaded numerous countries

Vietnam
Cuba
Panama
Grenada
Iraq
Afghanistan
If you count the secret wars it triples


Iran

None


The Iranian regime remains committed to the use of violent terrorism, brutal human rights violations, oppressive measures against its own people, and dark methods of subterfuge, all in the name of emboldening its nuclear ambitions. Tehran's sponsorship of terrorism has far-reaching tentacles that get's good people DEAD.

America has goals and missions to stop these kinds of evils from growing since by them growing, people will die, including people we are allied with and have missions and goals to protect them.

This is the reason America must be involved because to do nothing is just like if you do nothing when someone you care about is being abused or harmed or even murdered. Letting evil do whatever it wants just isn't acceptable to people who care about right and wrong, and decency.


sounds like the same bull# bush spouted about Iraq.......... and look where that got the USA and UK? Got us into the biggest foriegn policy blunder since vietnam.


I will pass on this.


The world has bigger fish to fry like a deranged fat little Korean who actually does have Nukes and threatens to use them every 5 seconds.


You do realize that where Iran is right now is roughly where NK was about 20 years ago right? Actually Iran is in much better shape, in that they already have a pretty solid missile program. We tried the soft route with North Korea too, including a deal very similar to the Iran deal. Look where that got us indeed. If you don't want another North Korea down the road, Iran needs to be dealt with eventually too (unless of course the people manage to overthrow the government). I will agree NK is a more imminent threat and should be the focus right now.
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posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Theprodicalson

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Willtell
Who has Iran attacked in the last few decades?

America has invaded numerous countries

Vietnam
Cuba
Panama
Grenada
Iraq
Afghanistan
If you count the secret wars it triples


Iran

None


The Iranian regime remains committed to the use of violent terrorism, brutal human rights violations, oppressive measures against its own people, and dark methods of subterfuge, all in the name of emboldening its nuclear ambitions. Tehran's sponsorship of terrorism has far-reaching tentacles that get's good people DEAD.

America has goals and missions to stop these kinds of evils from growing since by them growing, people will die, including people we are allied with and have missions and goals to protect them.

This is the reason America must be involved because to do nothing is just like if you do nothing when someone you care about is being abused or harmed or even murdered. Letting evil do whatever it wants just isn't acceptable to people who care about right and wrong, and decency.


sounds like the same bull# bush spouted about Iraq.......... and look where that got the USA and UK? Got us into the biggest foriegn policy blunder since vietnam.


I will pass on this.


The world has bigger fish to fry like a deranged fat little Korean who actually does have Nukes and threatens to use them every 5 seconds.


You do realize that where Iran is right now is roughly where NK was about 20 years ago right? Actually Iran is in much better shape, in that they already have a pretty solid missile program. We tried the soft route with North Korea too, including a deal very similar to the Iran deal. Look where that got us indeed. If you don't want another North Korea down the road, Iran needs to be dealt with eventually too (unless of course the people manage to overthrow the government). I will agree NK is a more imminent threat and should be the focus right now.


1) there is no evidence Iran has nukes, even Mossad back this claim up.
2) People have been saying Irans 6 months away from nukes since 1996.....its 2018. Show evidence or shut up.
3)every time the USA get involved in the ME a worse situation ensures.
4) with war about to break out in north korea where is the USA going to get the mainpower to fight in Iran? You volunteering?



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Do you really think that war is the solution? How about the US just mind it's own business for once in this 21st Century?


How did that mindset work at Munich?


If you want war so much then you willing to volunteer to fight it ? Or you just going to cluck from the sidelines like a chicken hawk?



posted on Jan, 1 2018 @ 02:33 PM
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a reply to: face23785

In fact economically and scientifically Iran is miles Head of North Korea.
If Iran wanted nukes they would have them by now.




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