Fake Terror - The Road to War and Dictatorship

Here's the history lesson we were never taught in school.



If everyone understood how these wars were manufactured, it'd be next to impossible for the elites to keep doing it.

I think another reason Americans fall for these wars is because we're raised here with this good guy/bad guy mentality. We're always the good guy. Talking heads on the idiot box tell us country X HATES us and plans to do us harm. Immediately that makes it true. Forget the possibility that country X just might have been framed. Why? There is much profit to be made in war.

Also, look at the media and how it has promoted Arabs as terrorists. Everywhere you turn there is this anti-Arab conditioning. It's classic brainwashing on a grand scale.


MOD EDIT: Liberated shift key from tyranny of all cap rule.




[edit on 14-2-2005 by RANT]

So......how is this thread any different that the million and one you and others have started on the same subject, saying the same things?

As more people learn the truth of what is actually happening and of what has happened, it is causing deep divisions between people and their loved ones. Some people will not open their eyes for anything in the world. They would rather keep their heads in the sand than to wake up and have their illusions shattered. Here's one example..



More on that history..

Then if so many people have started these threads, and so many people respond.. then apparently its something worth talking about on a CONSPIRACY FORUM..

Thanks, think before you post next time..

Anyhow, back on topic.. ;p




Theres a website I think you may like ECK.. heres the link

It goes pretty indepth into this sort of thinking, ties it in with current events and.. well.. isnt trying to sell another book ;p

Its goal is to "prepare us for WW3" which they claim has already started by the upper powers to get arms sales up and the war machines grinding again.. besides... wars are good for the economy.. just not the people fighting them :x

Here is an example of how terrorism is fomented and why.

Thanks for the link, QS.

[edit on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]

What can I say after getting into Soficrow outstanding research on the Carlyle group I will have to agree, war is profits, but not for you or me the regular Joe, but for the elite the few the ones that hold the power behind the presidents.

Yes war are stage prepared and sold to us, with no questions ask.

Nobody cares that 3000 Americans are nothing to this elite than expendable lives that can be replaces in one day of birth rates in our nation.

The reality of this horrible way of thinking and profiting should have every American screaming for justice and to have somebody accountable in our government for this mistakes, no somebody in the middle east called "Bin-Laden" that is still not where to be find.

Conveniently hidden away plotting more acts of terror own our own soil so that is what our government said.

The hypocrisy the callousness is just to much to bear, while the power behind our government is in their vaults counting the spoils of war that they got from their investments firms.

You are right ECK, for this post you will be crucified.

I read through the article you linked, and did a little googling as well, to kind of round out the stories.

While the article is factually correct where it cites historical facts, the bulk of the article is concerned with conclusions (for which no sources are cited).

Not that the article is incorrect, but the author definitely starts out with a specific axe to grind, and only tells the parts of the story that help his thesis, and leave out parts that would harm it.

For instance, Spartacus WAS a threat to Roman social order. Spartacus and several of his underlings DID consider marching on Rome to secure more runaway slaves.

In the discussion of Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor, there's this little gem:



which is a fairly amazing statement if you think about it. Roosevelt had the power to control the minds of Japan's aggressive military leadership; the fact that they had just authorized the invasion of Manchuria, and actions like the "rape of Nanking" are irrelevant? Does this author want us to take seriously the idea that Japan was a peace-loving nation, no different from Switzerland or Paraguay?

I am not saying the thesis is incorrect. But the argument as presented skews history in order to make a (shaky) case.

In James Bamford's book "A Pretext for War," the Neo Cons' Clean Break strategy is discussed. They planned to roll over Iraq long before Bush took office. They sure hit the mother lode of pliability with him.

I didn't say so many people respond.

I wrote that because usually when people post the same stuff over and over again, they're told to use the Search function and post on a thread already dealing with the same subject.

Occurs the invasion of Iraq and the take over the middle east was in the planning before bush was elected, president, that tells you that he knew that he was to win the elections in 2000.

Also remember "'global Pax Americana"

Control of the Middle east and only to be shared with closes allies like UK.

great post!

and great article!

makes you really think, what happened to the "truth" we learned in schools.


but then again, about history i just have two things to say:

history is written by the winners.

history is a lie we all agree upon.

omg
Get real marg. You're hate for Bush is blinding you. The only thing that would show, is that Bush isn't that important. He's not even that powerful.

9/11 and probably most stuff that has happened post 9/11 (including Iraq - though maybe not invasion) would have happened with or without Bush. I wait for the day you see that Bush is not the next hitler or anti-christ or world conquerer, just a pawn...

You went straight for my post, I feel so special I am beyond speach, but that is ok It's plenty of allegations out there, thanks for places like ATS, only the blind are led by the blind.

....I posted twice in this thread before your post


Plus your post was...well.....nevermind
I mean, you keep saying that Bush sees himself as divine, which you don't believe his is, yet you believe he's able to accurately see and predict the future.

One interesting thing to think about..

We're drawing a conversation that there are elites in the world (we'll call it the NWO or some likeminded organization) are have been and are forming wars by pulling governmental strings to get action/reaction.

So who are the 'guys on top'?.. Are they from America? .. It's obvious now that they have control of America.. the recent wars and war drum beatings have made this quite apparent..

But .. theres no way of stopping them without knowing who they are. Sure, the US could bomb Iran and China can bomb Taiwan and North korea could invade S. Korea.. all at the same time.. claiming different reasons for each invasion.. But what if this is all planned.. stir the emotions in these countries, and set it up that they all attack at once.. or within a few months/years of eachother..

Those 3 mini-wars alone would get the war machine back up and running. The iron mills making gun barrels, the massive production of armor and vehicles.. ahh the WW2 Economic War Machine..

Prepare the masses by 3 small wars. Spin off the World War during these fights?

Hell I dont know, only theorizing on the massive amount of information coming from these 3 potential wars.. ;p

Regardless, you, me, everyone else in this world that are already "Deprogrammed" or were never 'programmed'... What are we to do? We're average joes.. our voice means nothing.. and in this world, the average joe lost his voice a long long long time ago.

Watch, pray you live, and hold on cause its going to be a very bumpy ride.. but be prepared... go in your backyard and dig a huge ditch.. build a shelter, stock it, then bury it. And pray you never have to access it.

And until that day arrives.. dont dwell too much on it.. theres absolutly nothing you, me and everyone else in the world can do to stop it.

Revolt? Against what? The world? Without a target we're merely shooting into the sky..

[edit on 2/14/2005 by QuietSoul]

And what is it that keeps you from learning the truth?

Did you read this, or pass over it?



Open your eyes.

Good advice. Knowing the truth of what's going on is the first step. Preparing for all possible scenarios is the next. I encourage everyone to think about this and to act on it. Whether an ice storm hits, a hurricane or the economy collapses, you will be more prepared to deal with it than not.

Umm......so.....
What does what your wrote have to do with anything?

I didn't say that attacking Iraq wasn't planned before Bush. I'm sure it was. The point I was making was just that. Whether Bush became president or not, it was likely going to happen.

Marg said that because it was planned before, that Bush knew he was going to be president. That's not true. Because...
"The only thing that would show, is that Bush isn't that important. He's not even that powerful."


Reading is fundamental.

[edit on 14-2-2005 by ThatsJustWeird]

Hmm.. you're very touchy. Mind answering the question?



What exactly do you mean?



So, according to your logic, that makes it ok? And it lets Bush off the hook?



Exactly. Try reading a variety of sources instead of just the ones you feel safe with. You might be surprised at what you'll learn. That is, if you're not afraid of that.

[edit on 14-2-2005 by ThatsJustWeird]