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US could collapse like Soviet Union, Ron Paul says

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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Libertarian Republican leader Ron Paul said that the American system under President Donald Trump is “coming apart” and that the booming economy this year is “a bit of an illusion.” “We’re on the verge of something like what happened in '89 when the Soviet system just collapsed,” the former Texas congressional representative told the Washington Examiner on Tuesday. “I’m just hoping our system comes apart as gracefully as the Soviet system.”



Is there a bubble?





Paul said that a potential breakdown of the U.S. system due to underlying debt, inflation and inequality could result in a new monetary policy. “The country’s feeling a lot better, but it’s all on borrowed money,” he said. “It’s a bubble economy in many, many different ways and it’s going to come unglued.”



I for one trust Ron Pauls opinion over anyone in the Trump WH. When has trickle down ever worked in favor of the American working man?




posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:07 PM
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who cares, just listen to older conservatives

it's about to come apart because young people are lazy

as long as I got mine woop woop
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:18 PM
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All super powers end eventually.

If the USA does collapse I can seeTexas, California, Nevada, Colorado Alaska doing well as independent country with standards of living shooting up.

Other states like Alabama, Mitchgan ect I can see ending up worse than some parts of Africa.

New York would ether collapse or end up a even better off as the world leading tax haven.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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Somebody needs to lower his dosage.

How can a coherent Senator say this sh!t.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:20 PM
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Ron Paul is still relevant?
That is news within itself...



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere
Somebody needs to lower his dosage.

How can a coherent Senator say this sh!t.






Spiralling debt, income inequality, yes how dare he point out the obvious.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Somebody needs to lower his dosage.

How can a coherent Senator say this sh!t.






Spiralling debt, income inequality, yes how dare he point out the obvious.


Increasing income inequality has always been a very bad sign.

In a healthy country, socialy and economically, wealth increases at a steady rate for poor, rich and the. middle classes.
When the middle classes start to die off, #s about to go down.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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a reply to: whyamIhere

You do realize there's a lot of problems in the US do you? And don't tell me the country is improving. It isn't.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:37 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

No it shall not, any breakaway would be viewed by all those loyal american's whom are still willing to fight and die to restore what they see as the american dream of freedom and happiness under a democracy of the people would do all in there power to reverse any such calamity, they would not be stopped by there division and indeed in time would form new bond's.

What I do see is the global manipulation by the elite whom are actually NOT american's - except for just a couple of them - coming apart and a new potential new cloak and dagger age like the cold war but this time waged against that very elite and it's puppet's with the aim of destroying them once and for all - by none other than a NEW elite (Sadly) but since there idea's are counter to the future well being of the human race - and therefore themselves ultimately it is only right and fair that this should happen.

He is not perfect, He is not a saint and he is definitely just a man, a human being with all the same flaw's as the rest of us but the guy is actually far more intelligent than many would like to suggest and this US president Trump despite the hurdles thrown in front of him, the Racist card being played to divide the Electorate AGAINST him (and actually successfully dividing the electorate against one another which is another of there Goal's) when in fact I don't believe he is really a racist at all AND the fact he is upsetting there globalist scheme from a position of power, a position THEY have been trying to weaken to prevent this very action from a potential elected leader not under there control is indicative that there is already a very strong power struggle among the elite, they do NOT all want the same thing or we would already be dead.

Though I see some of his policy's I do not agree with - as an outsider I actually have nothing against his international policy's and actually see American taking a strong stance again which is actually very good for World Peace despite other's opinion's on the matter and therefore for the Human race as a whole, the large human race not the tiny elite chosen sheep race of slaves they wanted to survive there plan.

My worry is that while I believe the US shall survive barring a mass depopulation event which WOULD destroy it as a nation that there is one more pressing and very much dangerous to every human being on this planet event we have to worry about and that is the potential, no the FACT that MR Trump's life is actually in danger even from some of those that are supposed to be his closest allies since he has well and truly put the fly in the elite's soup.

I am actually a socialist so don't get me wrong I for the most part on a global political scale am on the opposite side of the political spectrum BUT I call it as I see it from my point of view, I think he is actually doing his best for YOU or at least trying to, I don't like some of his policy's but hey it's not my country and if they work the proof as they say shall be in the pudding.

SO I believe the US shall be around for a long time yet.

Barring, Engineered civil war paid for and manipulated into being like the current racial tension's by a minority of world elite whom are only interesting in there own agenda and actually have no allegiance to either side seeing us all as disposable sheep.

Barring, A Mass depopulation event, Global or national human culling, release of engineered pathogen's designed to kill off the population or sterilize them (Already happening on a global scale but we are still beating the numbers as a species) and the potential accompanying military industrial coup with new draconian law's that the Survivors would use all of there available asset's to prevent or to avenge - there is more than one elite and just because a bunch of corrupt corporations' and spoiled rich tyrant's think they are in charge does not actually mean they hold all the card's, there may be someone out there whom would then actually use that even among there own numbers as a method to move to consolidate all of that power then into there own hand's and there may be some that are simply NOT under there control whom may have comparable assets to themselves including a potential very secret society that is there enemy - yes another one that may still be in possession of a / or several assets that they can not even comprehend - there is more than just fake or real alien's at work here, the NAZI's believed they were real and sent out there expeditions to try to take that for themselves but without getting into the whole Ahnenerb crap it is a long story, let's just say they feared secret society's and not all secret society's (there may be still some that are not corrupted by that particular bunch of moneyed lout's) are our enemy and some are probably dedicated to protecting humanity and the ancient knowledge including of the crimes of past elite's which they may still be guarding to this day, in fact there are probably they whom are watching the cabal but for whatever reason can not yet come out of the shadows and will only and always act from them while in reality they may be many time's more powerful than the world's elite and holding there own Trump card'(s).

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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Ron Paul has been saying that sort of thing since he first ran for president--the first time. He's an MD who fancies himself a genius economics theorist.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:17 PM
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Is there a bubble?


There's always a bubble.

It's the nature of economics.

BOOM. BUST.

All things are cyclical. Warren Buffet.

One's mans great depression is another mans garage sale. With low,low prices.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: whyamIhere

You do realize there's a lot of problems in the US do you? And don't tell me the country is improving. It isn't.


Maybe it isn't for you.

Some of us want lower taxes.

Clearly, the economy is coming back.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:33 PM
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Well, could always just sell Corporation USA to Berkshire Hathaway, Im sure Warren could afford to buy it.

Maybe he could go halfies with Gates.

Make Omaha the Nations Capitol.....

Everything will be fine.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:36 PM
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originally posted by: whyamIhere

originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: whyamIhere

You do realize there's a lot of problems in the US do you? And don't tell me the country is improving. It isn't.


Maybe it isn't for you.

Some of us want lower taxes.

Clearly, the economy is coming back.


Yeah the bubble is forming. Just like for Billy Clinton. Funny that they can't balance a budget though...even congress during slick willy could do that.

That 150 a month should really boost the middle class...especially with the Chinese currency gaining ground and the cpi rising, interest rates raising should help as well...



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: whyamIhere
Somebody needs to lower his dosage.

How can a coherent Senator say this sh!t.




Spiralling debt, income inequality, yes how dare he point out the obvious.


I'll finish the sentence for you.....

...that has been going on for many, many years.

I mean really????

the American system under President Donald Trump is “coming apart” and that the booming economy this year is “a bit of an illusion.”


It's been coming apart for years. It's been spiraling out of control for years. It's been income inequality for years. Now Trump is trying to fix it and it's "a bit of an illusion" because he's seems to making some headway in his first year in office????

There's a reason Ron Paul wasn't elected POTUS.

Just goes to show that any gain we the people of America are now achieving is all smoke and mirrors....or so the left would like us to believe. They would rather see the people not gain anything than to only get a 'modest' increase with the new tax plan simply because the rich will get richer.

It has to start somewhere and progress IS being made. Support the positive and keep moving forward.






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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux


There's a reason Ron Paul wasn't elected POTUS


People are too dumb and the powers that be would never allow the us to have a rainy day fund?


It has to start somewhere and progress IS being made. Support the positive and keep moving forward.


Put your head in the sand and fall for the ponzi scheme?

It worked great for Reagan, Clinton, and Bush...for a minute anyway.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:45 PM
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I believe it could happen.

If we discount science and rally behind emotional pleas, then we are f-ed as a nation.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:57 PM
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a reply to: StoutBroux

You are doing nothing more than supporting the illusion that it's getting better, kudos for having a positive attitude about it.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: jrod
I believe it could happen.

If we discount science and rally behind emotional pleas, then we are f-ed as a nation.


Actually science says the USA is #ed.

At some point Yellowstone goes pop and the USA is wiped from the map, completely.

Hopefully not in my lifetime.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: StoutBroux

You are doing nothing more than supporting the illusion that it's getting better, kudos for having a positive attitude about it.


You can have a chitty attitude or a positive attitude. Guess which one will take you further!

Things are getting better and data supports that. I'm also not under the impression the US can't collapse like the Soviet Union. I hope it doesn't and so far, things are getting better not worse. Like they say, hope for the best and plan for the worst. Doesn't mean we won't or will fail. It is what it is.



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