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Anti-sharia laws proliferate as Trump strikes hostile tone toward Muslims

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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Anti-sharia legislation is spreading in state legislatures across the US, as Donald Trump’s hostile stance towards Muslims appears to be emboldening rightwing Islamaphobes.

Dearborn, Michigan: a divided city grappling with what it means to be Muslim and American

In 2017 there were 23 new bills introduced in 18 states attempting to prohibit the practice of Islamic religious law, or sharia, in US courts. The rash of new bills brings the total number of such legislative efforts since 2010 to 217 in 43 states, according to the Haas Institute at UC Berkeley which monitors the anti-sharia movement.

Legal experts point out that the bills are superfluous, as the US constitution is the supreme law of the land and any foreign laws are subservient to it. Sharia itself is less a set of laws than religious guidelines, one of which requires Muslims to be law-abiding according to the rules of whichever country they find themselves.
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I don't see how anti-Sharia laws are "superfluous." Sharia law is illegal in the U.S., but what if Muslims create a modified form of Sharia law that is legal in the U.S.? I think any form of Sharia law should be illegal (due to separation of church and state and a complete lack of morality), so I see these laws as being justified.

I can't get over the irony in the article linked above. The author is claiming it's "Islamophobic" to want anti-Sharia laws while proclaming that Sharia law is completely illegal in the U.S. In other words, "this thing is antithetical to your values and your laws, but don't be too against it."

Who writes articles like this? Don't they care that their loved ones could potentially be the next victims?

This article is a perfect example of Orwellian mind control. Doublethink permeates the entire thing. Why is that agenda being pushed?


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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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Wow...The level of cognitive dissonance has reached epic proportions in this article.

He's literally arguing both sides throughout the whole article.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:24 PM
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Where in the States is Sharia Law in effect? Or is this just pandering to those who may be too dull to get it?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

This is my favorite line:

"Sharia itself is less a set of laws than religious guidelines, one of which requires Muslims to be law-abiding according to the rules of whichever country they find themselves."

How reassuring!

I guess we can all relax and go back to sleep. Muslims are commanded to be law-abiding according to the rules of whichever country they find themselves. That was a close one! It's great to know that because I had been concerned about it.

We can all see how seriously Muslims take that command. Reading that article proves that the film They Live really is a documentary. Sleep!

Get me off this nuthouse!


a reply to: Kharron

I don't see how anti-Sharia laws are "superfluous." Sharia law is illegal in the U.S., but what if Muslims create a modified form of Sharia law that is legal in the U.S.? I think any form of Sharia law should be illegal (due to separation of church and state and a complete lack of morality), so I see these laws as being justified.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:35 PM
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a reply to: Kharron

Check out Dearborn, Michigan. I'm from not far from there, but far removed. I've heard from people I know there some stories, I've read some first hand accounts herein ATS, and I've seen some videos...

There's always certain degrees between literal and de facto, and they've got degrees going on up there.




posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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Amish, some Jewish sects and other religious groups in the US have their own laws --- and have had them for generations. Sharia law is the same thing. It only pertains to those who choose it.

None of them supersede US law.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Except for when they've got the Police Station & City Council & City Hall in their back pocket.

Hell look up the Scientologists in Clearwater, FL. Cold Wisdom here he has scores of threads about the details. Tons of stuff on the Net. This stuff happens.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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A country cannot have one law for its citizens and a separate, religious law for a minority. You're either loyal to the customs, ethics, moral code and culture of your country or you need to find a more suitable place to live. Don't try to undermine it.

Australia doesn't allow a separate legal system such as sharia but it still runs illegally in back-door mosques. There was a spike of cases of religious-sanctioned beatings for men who had drank alcohol and were dating outside their religion.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Annee

Except for when they've got the Police Station & City Council & City Hall in their back pocket.

Hell look up the Scientologists in Clearwater, FL. Cold Wisdom here he has scores of threads about the details. Tons of stuff on the Net. This stuff happens.


You mean like the Christians?


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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Do Christian's have their own sets of laws, whether or not they include brutal barbarism practices, that are different than everyone elses laws? I missed that memo. I can see where you'll try to take this however, which makes it INSANE that you'd be standing up for Sharia Law. I mean literally insane.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

None of that sounds like it's the law; it reminds me more of mafia behavior, which is illegal under our law.

I managed a casino for years and have had muslim customers who have run into issues with their own community for gambling, or drinking and so on but if anyone for a second thinks that if those customers were beaten by the community or killed, the offenders would not be tried under our law, they're drinking Kool Aid.

As Annee said, our law supersedes all other laws and on top of that our Constitution guarantees the separation of religion and politics -- which is not happening anyways, but nobody cares when it's their own religion interfering in politics. It's just them other kind we don't like around these parts.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: Annee

You're using the appeal to tradition logical fallacy.

I don't know how you can forget all the children who are victims of Sharia law. What about the girls who are 'sold' (or otherwise forced or pressured) into marriage? Do they get to choose what law they will follow?

They probably can't even comprehend what that choice entails.

Their parents won't give them a choice regardless.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: antiantonym
a reply to: Annee

You're using the appeal to tradition logical fallacy.

I don't know how you can forget all the children who are victims of Sharia law. What about the girls who are 'sold' (or otherwise forced or pressured) into marriage? Do they get to choose what law they will follow?

They probably can't even comprehend what that choice entails.

Their parents won't give them a choice regardless.


In the US there are Christian sects who arrange and force marriages.

And there are Muslims who are free to choose.

Extremism is not exclusive to one belief over another.

Extremism is extremism.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 04:09 PM
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There is an example of a religious law being allowed and made an exception for, but it makes sense since many of our lawmakers practice Judaism.

Kashrut Law. People of Jewish faith must eat food prepared under kosherate law... an animal must be slaughtered in a specific way and here's the kicker - they do not have to stun the animal before killing it. A law has been passed that states that for humane reasons animals must be stunned before they are slaughtered, so this is an exception to our law. The animal must be killed so it suffers as little pain as possible, but it cannot be stunned.

But this was voted on and an exception was made. We don't need additional laws and amendments to say Ninja Turtle Law is not in effect here, or the Sith Academy Rules do not apply. Nothing applies unless it is in our own law - everything else is fear-mongering and an unnecessary waste of legislation.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 04:24 PM
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Anti-sharia legislation is spreading in state legislatures across the US, as Donald Trump’s hostile stance towards Muslims appears to be emboldening rightwing Islamaphobes.


What what the eff do state legislatures have to do with Trump ?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 04:34 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: Kharron

Check out Dearborn, Michigan. I'm from not far from there, but far removed. I've heard from people I know there some stories, I've read some first hand accounts herein ATS, and I've seen some videos...

There's always certain degrees between literal and de facto, and they've got degrees going on up there.



There is no Sharia Law in Dearborn, Michigan. Only people who believe that are conservatives who drink the conservative Koolaid.

This nonsense all began with a satirical website but that didn't stop right wingers from being fooled into believing its real and still you people spread these lies. Here's the site that "reported" it, http://_national_report_dot_net_/ ( I guess ATS has this site blocked?). The original article has since been taken down but the internet remembers.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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that our Constitution guarantees the separation of religion and politics

Where ??????
And why do I have to keep asking that question ?
And why do folks propagate ignorance out of ignorance ?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: neo96


Anti-sharia legislation is spreading in state legislatures across the US, as Donald Trump’s hostile stance towards Muslims appears to be emboldening rightwing Islamaphobes.


What what the eff do state legislatures have to do with Trump ?



Nothing.

But everyone knows that.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:26 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Kharron




that our Constitution guarantees the separation of religion and politics

Where ??????
And why do I have to keep asking that question ?
And why do folks propagate ignorance out of ignorance ?


So you're not aware of the seperation of Church and State?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 05:27 PM
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Sharia law is about as progressive as a glacier...

-Chris



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