NYT Bombsell: Papadopoulos not Dossier Behind FBI Launching Investigation

a reply to: UKTruth

The charge is one of working with the Russian govt to influence the outcome of an election.
There is no suggestion of that from the meeting.

The Russians made a specific point of portraying themselves as representing the Russian government. Donny and Manafort agreed to meet them with this understanding. They were willing to accept their help to win the election. By any definition, they were attempting to collude with the Russian government. You may want to argue that the lawyers weren't "really" the Russian government, but that doesn't matter. it was clearly a sting operation, and Team Trump fell for it.

a reply to: theantediluvian

You need evidence. Something that seems to be lacking here.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: theantediluvian

You need evidence. Something that seems to be lacking here.

Evidence of what? It's Trump's supporters who are claiming it was the basis for the FISA warrant. There is no evidence for that. On the other hand, there are plenty of other reasons why the warrant may have been issued. The House Committee is about to confirm that. Tick tock....

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: UKTruth

The charge is one of working with the Russian govt to influence the outcome of an election.
There is no suggestion of that from the meeting.

The Russians made a specific point of portraying themselves as representing the Russian government. Donny and Manafort agreed to meet them with this understanding. They were willing to accept their help to win the election. By any definition, they were attempting to collude with the Russian government. You may want to argue that the lawyers weren't "really" the Russian government, but that doesn't matter. it was clearly a sting operation, and Team Trump fell for it.

Don't make stuff up it was exactly opisit of that. The meeting was set up by a friend of a friend. A man by the name of Rob Goldstone a publicist contacted Trump jr. This publicist had a client named Emin Algarov, an Azerbaijani-Russian entertainment artist and businessman who has boasted of having a close relationship with President Trump.

Goldstone was told to set up a meeting for Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya. So he kept shooting off emails hyping up that she has important information for the Trump campaign as any publicist will do the information kept getting better as he continued to email.

The publicist in an interview said The publicist said when he emailed Trump Jr. about the Russian "crown prosecutor" who had met with Aras Agalarov and discussed providing the Trump campaign information that would incriminate Clinton.

Goldstone said the "crown prosecutor" he was referring to was Veselnitskaya -- not Vladimir Putin's prosecutor general, Yuri Chaika.

So no where did anyone claim to be with the Russian government. The closest we get is they thought it was a prosecutor from russia and they thought Hillary had violated some Russian law.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: theantediluvian

You need evidence. Something that seems to be lacking here.

Ha!

The needed evidence is in the dam email itself.

There's also the fact that Jr had come up with 3 statements over the course of about 3 days - all documented evidence - that kept changing and finally there's the fact that the White House wrote one of those statements for Jr.!

Also, the fact that now Bannon confirms the fact that the Russians wanted to lift the sanctions, and we see the first thing that the new administration did is try to lift the sanctions, such that Congress suddenly decided it needed to take it out of Trump's hands with a 98-2 vote, www.nbcnews.com... and that's just tossed up as indicative of nothing. And Trump complained about that! Said he would veto it until he saw it wouldn't matter.

Nothing here will persuade those who've already made up their mind that Trump's suffering a witch hunt and gleefully have convicted Hillary on something that never came up with actual people until Trump looked deeply in trouble.

Just amazing. We have a Russian asset in the Oval Office and the conspiracy site (many on it, not all) is killing itself to keep the Russian asset in place. He's done nothing for the common man, and stuffed his cabinet with swamp members, yet the support rides on. It must be based upon something that has nothing to do with draining the swamp, or a wall, or ending trade agreements, nothing like that.

a reply to: dragonridr

Are you familiar with the modus operandi of the MGB*?
*I know that this isn't official yet, but Vladimir Vladimirovich will have his little jokes, and who am I to annoy him him?

a reply to: dragonridr

So who did little Donny think he was talking to?