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US military to accept transgender recruits after courts block Donald Trump’s ban

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: antiantonym



Good grief, I don't even know where I stand on this topic, and I am a gay man.






posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

That isn't how it works.

But yeah spread that info.


Then why did you interject against my rational compromise lets move on proposal?

The uncompromising way Obama handled it (dont forget the kindergarten restrooms where any demented kid could claim to 'need' the other room and exploit it for sexual deviancy), and the white knights have screamed rioted even to support posture, all to torpedo the GOP, it really is sad to Obama DNC hold the trans people out as sacrificial lambs like that as it shouldnt take a rocket scientist to have been able to predict it would piss people off and cause all this division when prior to that nobody even cared.

When are people going to start seeing thru all this sort of BS??

Oh, that's right, scores into this game are in it to set fire to our social fabric.


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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:04 AM
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No one asks you if you are a transgender when you enlist. It's not like Trump's transgender ban can be enforced in the first place. Most transgenders opt out of sex change surgery.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

That was a lot of text for saying almost nothing.


So a combat infantry troop of decoration after more than a decade of service, with the military approval is not OK with you to get the surgery?

Personally I could care less if they want bat wings to come out of their forehead if they are effective weapons against the enemy.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

That was a lot of text for saying almost nothing.


So a combat infantry troop of decoration after more than a decade of service, with the military approval is not OK with you to get the surgery?

Personally I could care less if they want bat wings to come out of their forehead if they are effective weapons against the enemy.


The military does not accept applicants who may adversely affect other service members. They don't accept people with criminal records. They don't accept murderers. They don't accept druggies. The don't accept Down syndrome people. Transgenders do not affect other service members. So there is no need to ban them from enlisting.
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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:12 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
I don’t see why the military has to accept trannies.


What difference does it make what's going on in your pants as long as you are good soldier?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

buzz their heads, no make up and no lowering the requirements.

Same with Females in combat roles same physical requirements as men if you can't make it find another job.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Because men do horrible things in war especially to females and I also don't agree with male and female units but I'm all for exclusive female combat units



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:20 AM
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great job turning the military into a political organization that caters to social justice rather than maintaining a focus of being a highly efficient killing machine with the sole purpose of maintaining world order



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: afatos

Remember when blacks weren’t allowed to serve in combat alongside white soldiers? Many whites thought blacks were too stupid/lazy/etc. to be trusted in combat.

Yeah, that was a dumb attitude, and they’re over it now.

Just because you are a transgender person, it doesn’t mean you can be compared to a criminal or a murderer or a druggie, or a person with Down’s Syndrome. It’s time to get over the dumb attitude.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: afatos

Remember when blacks weren’t allowed to serve in combat alongside white soldiers? Many whites thought blacks were too stupid/lazy/etc. to be trusted in combat.

Yeah, that was a dumb attitude, and they’re over it now.

Just because you are a transgender person, it doesn’t mean you can be compared to a criminal or a murderer or a druggie, or a person with Down’s Syndrome. It’s time to get over the dumb attitude.


Can't say I've seen anyone compare transgenders to murderers or druggies or people with downs syndrome.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Is it true that transgenders suffer from a mental illness according to the DSM?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Read the post I was responding to.




posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: EvidenceNibbler

No, but they can if it effects their life and cause disforia.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: UKTruth

Read the post I was responding to.



I did. He said they were NOT comparable.



The military does not accept applicants who may adversely affect other service members. They don't accept people with criminal records. They don't accept murderers. They don't accept druggies. The don't accept Down syndrome people. Transgenders do not affect other service members. So there is no need to ban them from enlisting.


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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler
a reply to: kaylaluv

Is it true that transgenders suffer from a mental illness according to the DSM?



Gender dysphoria itself is not considered a mental illness. The dysphoria can cause problems like depression and anxiety, which ARE considered mental illnesses to be treated. Part of the treatment includes transitioning to the point that the other symptoms (depression/anxiety) are greatly reduced.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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Determining dexterity, acute motor-skills, critical thinking skills, sound mind, an ability to work in a team or alone, reliable, punctual, willing to give your life to save another.

Anyone who qualifies against these criteria can advance to the next stage of recruitment - medical and psychological exams.

If you pass a US military medical and psych process, then you're doing very well.

During the recruitment process your religious & political slant will be discussed, as too with your sexual orientation - it all comes out.

So, if after all that, one is deemed qualified to engage the enemy as a soldier/sailor/marine in the US military, then that is all there is to it..............in a perfect world, which this ain't, by a long shot.

Military units, like professional sports teams, perform at their best when they are a cohesive tight-knit group of individuals that know each other well, are well trained and have each others backs, even unto death.

The real test here will be how transgender new recruits conduct themselves when bonding with existing military personnel, and likewise how existing personnel will conduct themselves when bonding with transgender new recruits.

I have a feeling that when your life is on the line on the battlefield, anyone that has your back should be considered a bonded brother or sister - genders and religions and politics and skin colors become totally moot.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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If you are physically and mentally able to perform the duties of a member of the armed services, then you should be given the honor of doing so.

It's really that simple.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth

The poster just revised their post a bit, which clarified things.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: EvidenceNibbler

I dilate my artificial vagina so it doesn't scab over and close off .


hahahahahhahaha

thank you for that
i am writing s little something and that will be in there somewhere.

i dont see how being a trans is the same as being tall.




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