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The Storm is Here 4,289 SEALED Federal Indictments

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

What has changed for you? Did you get a better job? A raise in pay? More vacation time? A lower interest rate on your mortgage? Lower gas prices? Lower grocery prices?
What's better for you today that was different in January of this year?

Me I did great on the stock market because the only income I have now are my investments and savings. One diversified portfolio earned a record 13% ... So maybe your 401 increased??? That would be great if you're ready to retire and use the money. Or it's for the future and still subject to market fluxuations. I'm just curious because in general I really haven't seen any changes for the average man. Tax breaks you really won't know about until next february.




posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 12:58 PM
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What solid proof do the Mods have to put this in the Hoax Bin? Please share that.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I see you are a moderator, so thank you for your answer even though it is not an official mod statement.

However, I still do not understand exactly where the "hoax" is to be found in this OP/thread. The indictments are real, as confirmed by gov links I have seen posted both here and elsewhere. No hoax regarding the very high number.

Also, stating that something "appears" to be something, is not a hoax either. It is simply speculation - something I thought would have been both welcomed and encouraged on a discussion forum, and especially a conspiracy forum. Apparantly that is not the case on ATS. How very strange.

Oh well.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: thepixelpusher

What solid proof does anyone have that any of these warrants have to do with any political figures, or anything claimed in the Hal Turner article, other than the number of sealed indictments?

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: MostlyReading


Skuttlebutt from my former colleagues in the Intel Community is that the feds are going to "swoop" all of them in one massive action, to "drain the swamp."



SKUTTLEBUTT:
Many of these are Indictments for Child Porn and Child Sex Crimes allegedly perpetrated by elected government officials at the federal, state, county and even local levels!!!!!

While I do not know the nature or the names of Defendants of ANY of these SEALED Cases, SPECULATION (i.e. skuttlebutt / gossip / perhaps some inside info) in the Intelligence Community from my former colleagues on the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and elsewhere, is that much of this has to do with SEX CRIMES uncovered by the Search Warrant for former US Congressman Anthony Weiner's laptop computer!



My gut tells me, many of these Indictments will be unsealed BEFORE CHRISTMAS and a lot of very high profile people are in for a very nasty holiday season.


Again, the issue isn't with the number of indictments, it's with the utterly unfounded leaps being made by a source that has a history of making things up out of whole cloth.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xtrozero

What has changed for you? Did you get a better job? A raise in pay? More vacation time? A lower interest rate on your mortgage? Lower gas prices? Lower grocery prices?
What's better for you today that was different in January of this year?


Nice pay raise, big fat bonus and another one even bigger in March, so far. The company I work for increased its manning by 40% of about 500 people in the last 7 months and that is not stopping anytime soon. Under Obama we were basically flat for 8 years. We can blame part on Bush but at some point, I'll say 2 years, the new President own it all. I'm not even saying Trump did anything big other than to energize business once again with an attitude that is not against them, but wants to work with them.

I was also able to revert back to my old medical that cost me about 5k less per year than with ACA changes, so ya lots of little things in his first year.


I'm 57 so I max my 401k contributions every year with a 4% company match that I would say it is doing extremely well too. As to cost of things, boy we saw prices go up under Obama, meat as example. I think many families that were getting by stopped due to the cost alone that went up, and if one loss their better paying job that wiped them out in the end. I don't hear as much grumble today about jobs and there are a lot of them available, but we will see in the next few years how that all plays out.



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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58


Sorry, I still do not see where the hoax is in this particular thread. "Unfounded leaps" (as in speculation) and "hoaxing" are two different things no matter who does the speculation.

But this is not my circus and not my monkeys and I have said what I wanted to say about the trash label this that thread has been slapped with. Moving on.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: MostlyReading


no matter who does the speculation.


So, if you read a source that is wrong, and is caught lying in 9 articles out of 10, you're going to keep believing them because of that 10th article? We should just ignore all the times he's posted utter drivel, because he got the number of indictments right?

As I said, Hal Turner has been caught posting hoaxes many times, so now his articles go to the hoax bin.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58


The OP of this thread also posted another one about all these sealed indictments without using Hal Turner as a source. That second thread was simply deleted.

What was the reason for deleting the second thread then, if Hal Turner is the problem? This really is very strange indeed.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:52 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: MostlyReading

That's between the OP and the staff. We don't discuss removals with other members. But, if a thread or post is removed, there is a T&C violation involved. They don't get removed for no reason.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: NobodiesNormal
a reply to: RomeByFire

when happenings reveal to you that Qanon was right all along, as i believe will come, will you change your outlook on conspiracy theories? reanalyze everything you thought was bunk with a fresh look?

or will you just brush it off as the one time they got it right, and continue on?

its clear you dont believe qanon is real so you dont think this will happen, but just hypothetically, IF qanon's info gets revealed as legit, tell me how that would affect you,

not only am i very curious of your answer because im sure the thought process will apply to large numbers of people and its good to get a grasp on such minds.
but also because i am curious for when it really happens if you will follow through on whatever your answer is.


Burden of proof.

Ain't on me. Your post is full of speculation and wishful thinking.

If I'm wrong? Well, I don't pretend to be a perfect human being like some on ATS.

If I'm wrong - good! I don't know how anyone could be against what is being claimed by QAnon.

That's the key word, though, "claimed."

I don't buy QAnon's very obvious LARP.

I'm here to deny ignorance, not feed my own confirmation/biases.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:09 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire

originally posted by: NobodiesNormal
a reply to: RomeByFire

when happenings reveal to you that Qanon was right all along, as i believe will come, will you change your outlook on conspiracy theories? reanalyze everything you thought was bunk with a fresh look?

or will you just brush it off as the one time they got it right, and continue on?

its clear you dont believe qanon is real so you dont think this will happen, but just hypothetically, IF qanon's info gets revealed as legit, tell me how that would affect you,

not only am i very curious of your answer because im sure the thought process will apply to large numbers of people and its good to get a grasp on such minds.
but also because i am curious for when it really happens if you will follow through on whatever your answer is.


Burden of proof.

Ain't on me. Your post is full of speculation and wishful thinking.

If I'm wrong? Well, I don't pretend to be a perfect human being like some on ATS.

If I'm wrong - good! I don't know how anyone could be against what is being claimed by QAnon.

That's the key word, though, "claimed."

I don't buy QAnon's very obvious LARP.

I'm here to deny ignorance, not feed my own confirmation/biases.

you didnt answer the most important part,
will you change your outlook on conspiracy theories? reanalyze everything you thought was bunk with a fresh look?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58


So reasons are secret.

OK then, hahaha.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:28 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: MostlyReading

Removals are only discussed with the person involved. There is no reason to post them on the board and every reason not to. All the person involved has to do is send a PM to the moderator involved and they'll get a reason. Being nosy isn't a reason.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:36 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:46 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to:MostlyReading

That wasn't an insult directed at you. It's the most common reason that people want to know why something was removed, and isn't a valid reason for us to say.

And there is a very good reason for those removals and staff action to stay private. There's no reason to cause all the drama that will happen by telling everyone.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

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posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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To get back on track..... because the 4ooo + sealed indictments are, in fact, very real.....

I think it noteworthy to watch this number and see if we find any correlation to the number going down, and folks "fading away" as indicated by MEGanon.

See if there are any traces or tracks left behind. As in:
x no of indictments decreased by x no.
x no of people have seemed to fall out of the spotlight
insert whatever else you feel could connect it together here....
and all at about the same time.

I know i have posted this before, and in other threads as well, but i really feel it is worth repeating.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Zap; I've been following your posts for a bit. What about "Woodstein", learning from Deep Throat, that these conspiracies have to be attacked inwards from the outer edges, to really scoop up the scum?? Maybe it'll be the sequencing of unsealing these indictments, which will put the run on these criminals. No Fed. Prosecutor worth his or her salt, will give any get out of jail cards to kingpins, who can only rat out their own foot soldiers. So, are the Awan Bros. Kingpins or foot soldiers?? Don't you think it comes down to who they are really working for. Little old Debbie, what was her name, didn't go to Pakistan and recruit them, personally. And I have always wondered if Obama's trail would lead straight back to his pilgrimage to Pakistan. What if he pledged his Allegiance to that Grand Mufti, or whomever, he went to dip Humus with, there??

Then the Awans and Hesbollah, are only single strands in a much larger web. And guess what's lurking in that web's center?? If this conspiracy was done correctly, then there's no one for Debbie, Huma, Hillary, or any of these usual suspects to roll over on. In order to eliminate the big weaver, in the center, they have to first find a couple of chink's in the armor. NO human is perfect, not even one with an I.Q. of 146. Sooo------?



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: carpooler

It's the same problem though. The only thing we can say that we know, right now, is there are over 4,000 sealed indictments in the court system. They may turn out to be for some political figures, and may even be as big as people believe.

They're right that the only way this will happen is to go after the periphery and work in, but honestly, there's no way to know if that's what's happening until they're unsealed.



posted on Dec, 30 2017 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I agree the left leaning side have been particularly butthurt with Trump winning and have collectively had a major temper tantrum, that seems to have calmed down now a bit at least, in saying that Trump does deserve some criticism here as he making some silly mistakes and him shooting his mouth of is not very presidential.




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