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As are the profits from the cap-and-trade industry.
originally posted by: Phage
originally posted by: 3daysgone
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: 3daysgone
This is what you said:
This is not true. It has not been getting warmer. After the last ice age (glacial period, to be more correct) temperatures went into a slow decline.
It is all most as if the climate has been getting warmer since the last ice age. Oh wait. It has been.
Well then, you just proved global warming is a hoax. Congratulations.
No. That chart is using proxy data of limited resolution (about 300 years). It does not show the past 100 years of observed temperatures. But it does show that it has not been getting warmer since the last glacial period quite clearly. That was what your claim was.
originally posted by: Xenogears
Haven't looked much at the paris limbo, but it probably had exceptions for developing countries to emit with abaddon.
originally posted by: Xenogears
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xenogears
The cap and trade model seems to have been effective in reducing sulpher dioxide emissions. Among other things, it led to improved technology while not resulting in increases in consumer costs.
Emissions targets are ridiculous. Either the market will reduce emissions because renewables are competitive enough,
Would have to look at the studies, a lot of scientific studies are nonrepeatable and biased to show one outcome or another.
Wasn't sulfur dioxide one of the particulates that reflected sun light and was reducing temps?
originally posted by: Xenogears
originally posted by: 3daysgone
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: EvidenceNibbler
Contrary to superstition, the numbers do not lie:
What I find intriguing about that graph is that it shows from mid 1940's to almost 1960 it dropped. How could that be at the height the industrial revolution.
There are other influences, solar activity, reflective contaminant particulates, volcanoes.
Right now there are rumors of so called chemtrails being actually geoengineering to keep the climate cooler than it would otherwise be, but that is conspiracy.(though there are the videos of chemtrails starting stopping and restarting in very quick succession as if it is indeed an emission)
originally posted by: continuousThunder
i know i really shouldn't be surprised by this point but damn, the aggressive ignorance in this thread is really somethin else.
also mildly amusing that everywhere else i've seen this 'news' it's been met with incredulity and derision.... it's only here on the mighty ATS [and probably a few other noxious sinkholes] where anyone's even trying to spin this as a remotely positive action from Trump.
And yeah, i'm sure that's only going to reinforce the notion that you must be right , blah blah mainstream fake news blah, but it's honestly absurd, and not in a fun way.
I used to absolutely adore this site, but it's rapidly becoming nothing more than a tired, tasteless joke.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
i bet this one is not a real Trump Tweet, but rather one of his staff tweeting under his name. We know now that this happens all the time. The words are too clear, there are no punctuation errors , the sentences are constructed properly and there are no miss-spellings.
originally posted by: Nickisup
How can you honestly argue taking measures to prevent the destruction of our planet is a bad thing. Beyond climate change....
Dumping waste into rivers is bad.
Deforestation is bad.
Putting chemicals in the air is bad.
Whether climate change is directly effected by us or not it can’t hurt to be in favor of the enviorment. The denial of climate change fights in favor of the destruction of our planet.
a reply to: bluechevytree
I`ll believe in global warming when someone can explain to me how the ice age in north America happened and ended with NO human intervention.
New Zealand scientists claim to have developed a "flatulence inoculation" aimed at cutting down on the massive amount of methane produced by its sheep and cows.
Such animals are believed to be responsible for more than half of the country's greenhouse gases, causing huge environmental problems.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
a reply to: amfirst1
The fact is the world is warming, the glaciers are receeding everywhere, the tundra is melting (which releases methane and adds a positive feedback loop) the polar cap is melting (which causes the ocean to absorb light/heat that would otherwise reflect back off snow, another positive feedback loop) and air bubbles found in glaciers, air trapped for 25,000 years or more, indicates there's a relationship between CO2 and temp. It just does.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: continuousThunder
i know i really shouldn't be surprised by this point but damn, the aggressive ignorance in this thread is really somethin else.
also mildly amusing that everywhere else i've seen this 'news' it's been met with incredulity and derision.... it's only here on the mighty ATS [and probably a few other noxious sinkholes] where anyone's even trying to spin this as a remotely positive action from Trump.
And yeah, i'm sure that's only going to reinforce the notion that you must be right , blah blah mainstream fake news blah, but it's honestly absurd, and not in a fun way.
I used to absolutely adore this site, but it's rapidly becoming nothing more than a tired, tasteless joke.
Nothing stopping you calling out the jokers here that hang on every world chump tweets. Be the change you want to see.....