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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
The beginning of the universe and the concept of a god cannot be separated.
It's the question of the beginning that brought rise to the concept of god in the first place. (In my ignorant opinion)
You are putting faith in unproven science like abiogenesis, or panspermia or a vast range of unproven hypotheses to explain the answer. The possibility we could be inside a simulation is a valid hypothesis which allows for a god that lives outside time.
You are also denying the vast amount of books out there that "god" deemed necessary to have published.
If you are claiming there is no evidence you have to debunk the many claims of evidence out there. That requires understanding of biology, geology, astrology etc. etc.
Is there really?
The results are pretty much the same.
No, not really. Those are scientific hypotheses, currently being studied and figured out. They aren't based on blind faith, in fact abiogenesis has several experiments that back it. They are basically works in progress in science, they aren't just made up out of the blue, they are based on what we understand about the universe.
originally posted by: Seede
You have considered the entire matter? My God is the God that consists of the materials you use in learning of abiogenesis. Therefore your tools of science are my God. Not so? Then tell me how can one determine a beginning of a beginning without bringing forth something out of nothing. The first understanding is to know what nothing is. Without knowing what nothing is you will never know what a beginning is. You are as a dog chasing its tail while the master laughs at the whole event.