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originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: underwerks
Can you watch Hitler's speech and say he is right wing with a straight face?? I mean he sounds like a SJW and calls himself a socialist. lol
originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: daskakik
Well, that is human nature to cheat, steal, envy, and strive to be better. There are only few that can overcome the ego. The problem with socialism is that it doesn't compensate for human nature, so it presumes that everyone is the same and will follow the system they create. Well not everyone wants to be part of the system, some people may just want to be nomads or left alone. If that happens in numbers, it will just self-destruct the socialist system, which is why a volunteer system with no incentives does not work. If I work harder and make the same as you do then why the hell work in the first place? It's a race to the bottom. Therefore, authoritarianism and centralization follows socialism and mandates requires people to follow the rules.
Fascism sought to accommodate Italian conservatives by making major alterations to its political agenda—abandoning its previous populism, republicanism and anticlericalism, adopting policies in support of free enterprise and accepting the Roman Catholic Church and the monarchy as institutions in Italy.[120] To appeal to Italian conservatives, Fascism adopted policies such as promoting family values, including promotion policies designed to reduce the number of women in the workforce limiting the woman's role to that of a mother.
In 1920, militant strike activity by industrial workers reached its peak in Italy and 1919 and 1920 were known as the "Red Years".[117] Mussolini and the Fascists took advantage of the situation by allying with industrial businesses and attacking workers and peasants in the name of preserving order and internal peace in Italy.[118]
Some scholars consider fascism to be right-wing because of its social conservatism and its authoritarian means of opposing egalitarianism.[47][48] Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is "a radical variant of fascism"—on the political right by explaining: "The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. The more a person considers inequality to be unavoidable or even desirable, the further to the right he or she will be".[49]
Major Italian groups politically on the right, especially rich landowners and big business, feared uprising by groups on the left such as sharecroppers and labour unions.[56] They welcomed Fascism and supported its violent suppression of opponents on the left.
It's not that socialist mindsets can't work, it's that the leaders chosen abuse the power.
originally posted by: Konduit
originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: dukeofjive696969
Actually... it's not people on the right that are changing the definitions.
Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters
Hitler was a fascist and mussolini a fascist, so that means they were commies right, stop reading breitbart son, you wont look so stupid next time.
Nobody mentioned Breitbart or Communism. You're having a hard time tonight. Why is it so difficult for leftists to put up an argument without resorting to insults?
WHy is it so hard for trumptards to stop making stuff up to make there side look better.
Fascism is always on the right spectrum, always has always will.edit on 28-12-2017 by dukeofjive696969 because: (no reason given)edit on 28-12-2017 by dukeofjive696969 because: (no reason given)
I don't know about all that. Antifa is ironically fascist jn nature. The Nazis would have been fiercely contested by even modern American conservatives. I think people forget or simply don't know what exactly is fascism. They all create their own ideas of what they think it means and apply it to others. Parts of the right wing are fascist in nature like parts of the left are not, but in the same way most of the right wing are not in the slightest fascist.
originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: amfirst1
Why does the left believe that Fascism is on the right?
Ah donno?? Maybe because it is??..commies are generally leftist in the extreme.
originally posted by: Phage
originally posted by: AboveBoard
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: dfnj2015
I thought they mean this.
See their witch hunt with the FBI acting as the gestapo going papers please.
Yikes. That sounds exactly like a certain someone currently residing in the White House.
Perhaps, but the quote is of questionable provenance.
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
I don't know about all that. Antifa is ironically fascist jn nature. The Nazis would have been fiercely contested by even modern American conservatives. I think people forget or simply don't know what exactly is fascism. They all create their own ideas of what they think it means and apply it to others. Parts of the right wing are fascist in nature like parts of the left are not, but in the same way most of the right wing are not in the slightest fascist.
originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: amfirst1
Why does the left believe that Fascism is on the right?
Ah donno?? Maybe because it is??..commies are generally leftist in the extreme.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Why do people on the right try to change the meaning of words, fascism is a far right doctrine, and communist are far left, op go back to school.
Exactly, literally the ONLY people I've ever heard make this claim are US right wingers circle jerking in online chat rooms and redefining terms. Political scientists globally generally consider the fascists to be right wingers.
Across Latin America for example a number of right wing fascistic dictators arose, in direct opposition to leftists, socialists, and communists. They were supported by American RIGHT WINGERS in that fight.
In the Spanish revolution it was a civil war between right wing fascist-leaning, conservative supported dictator Franco versus actual left revolutionaries.
Right wingers on ATS, stop redefining terms and history. It makes you look silly and uninformed.
Op, go back to the books.