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Why does the left believe that Fascism is on the right?

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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Hitler did abolished the central bankers and hated the jews because they ran the banks that brought Germany to their knees financially. He just took it too far with his SJW extremism that led to the extermination of the Jews.
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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3

American democrats commit genocide?


Let's see what happens if the people are stupid enough to give socialists absolute power... like they did in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

Simple, the label of "fascist" is the liberal propaganda tool of collective political character assassination it uses against the right. It instantly conjures the collective bogeyman of nationalism and holocaust. There can not be a more collectively realistic bogeyman to haunt those you wish to persuade and cajole.

Interesting that Nazi Socialism was extreme leftism. I see more fascism (broad use of the term as meaning only accepting one way of doing everything, by dictate, without choice) coming from liberals than the right wing.

The right wing has its own problem. While not fascist it can be very racist, very greedy, very elitist and very corrupt; old boys network issues.

Politics is all two sides of the same coin. It is an endless shifting tide. The amusing thing is that the politicans can get people to think that they are gonna be the one who finds the solution. The only "solution" I ever heard of that came from a politician was the final one.

I'm sorry, my perception is tainted by recent British politics that really is a mess with no vision at a time when Britain needed at least some vision. The way thing are going extreme politics might surface as some kind of people's hope and a solution, but it will not be a solution, just further isolation and better not chasy the money men away.

It is either keep these capitalists on steroids o chase them away and end up a land of rubble. Anyone who knows the real debacle of history knows this.

I was reading today about how Hitler imprisoned an Austrian Rothschild Baron and confiscated all his huge fortune. The British Rothschilds paid a fortune to get him released, but had to waiver in writing and signature any claim to the huge Rothschild Estae in Vienna at that time.

Hitler chased them out and look where he ended up; he slaughtered like Vlad the Impaler and ended up shooting himself in the head. Go figure that?

Be happy like a crab scurrying sideways to whims of electoral political slogans, washed on the tide of MSM propagandizing.

I go with Bob Marley on this; "Never let a politician grant you a favor, they will want to control you forever".



Happy Blue Year!


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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:27 PM
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Why do people on the right try to change the meaning of words, fascism is a far right doctrine, and communist are far left, op go back to school.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Actually... it's not people on the right that are changing the definitions.

Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

What do you mean by absolute power? And how would that happen? The republicans are About as close to absolute power as the constitution allows.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

Perhaps it's because the terms "left" and "right" and "socialism" and "nationalism" and "facism" have been overused, corrupted and fail to convey correct meaning anymore. Perhaps it's because calling people these names make people feel better about their own beliefs?

But perhaps it's time we start healing the division rather exacerbating it?



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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The answer is both complex and simple and ultimately one that we should be careful to answer:

The reason is based on fear and the human mind. We all look and read history, however, when some of the actions of one group starts to look like those from the past, in this case the Facists, then perhaps we should give pause to look and see if it is true.

While yes the left often associated with the Democrats and the right with Republicans. However, the bottom line is the abuse of power and how far they tend to run roughshod over the public or how dangerous their policies can be for the public and country. And unfortunately both parties in the past and currently have engaged in such behaviors. Neither party is innocent and have done things in the past that would mimic if not bring the country very close to being a facist state.

It is like a pendulum, it swings back and forth.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: [post=22988433]Konduit[/post

American democrats commit genocide?


Genocide.. hmm, maybe not, but mass murder... yes.
Though it has to be said that American Republicans commit mass murder too.
Basically, the American govt has become the most murderous on earth since Hitler's Germany.

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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: dukeofjive696969
May I point out that modern usage has shifted from "FAR right", to "not left", which is also a change of meaning.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: Joneselius

Yeah people do forget history.

Hitler believed he was a socialist, funny thing is so did everybody else who came from the "correct" stock.

Utter muppets who deserved to be wiped from the earth, going around with their white power bs, extremism breeds extremism.

Maybe some freedom fighters went too far after the war, maybe some organisations got infiltrated by governments hell bent on demonising anything left-field or "hippy".

All I can say is every single human being should be equal in the eyes of the law, I can't blame people for being extreme when their sexuality or skin colour deprives them of opportunity.

This crap was happening in the lives of many living people today.




They only know that they hate privilege without knowing what that means, this is why they hate everything, to them it's all a patriarchy.


I don't hate privilege, I've never experienced racial privilege... Maybe citizenship privilege but that's a different pot of tea entirely.

No. The privileges I see are class based, always have been. A poor person is a poor person regardless of skin colour.

A human being is greater than nationality or skin colour only muppets think otherwise... Like Hitler.

If I had a time machine I'd bring him to today, I'd show him the Paralympic Games, Stephen Hawking, all those "backwards" Asian nations then laugh in his disgusting face.

I'd then send him back to his bunker with a pistol.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: amfirst1

There were both left and right factions within Moussolini’s Fascist party. The collectivism and repudiation of individualism, symbolized by the bundle of rods, best describes the underlying beliefs. Collectivism and the repudiation of individualism is Found predominantly on the left.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

Actually... it's not people on the right that are changing the definitions.

Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters


Hitler was a fascist and mussolini a fascist, so that means they were commies right, stop reading breitbart son, you wont look so stupid next time.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: dukeofjive696969
May I point out that modern usage has shifted from "FAR right", to "not left", which is also a change of meaning.



So the left in the 21st century is communist and fascist at the same time?



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Konduit

originally posted by: MOMof3

American democrats commit genocide?


Let's see what happens if the people are stupid enough to give socialists absolute power... like they did in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.


They already gave the FBI absolute power, and threatened anyone who would try to stop it.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: [post=22988433]Konduit[/post

American democrats commit genocide?


They're now beyond 60 million total murders since 1973... That's 10-times the body count of the next highest casualty genocide estimates for other groups.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: dukeofjive696969
Why do people on the right try to change the meaning of words, fascism is a far right doctrine, and communist are far left, op go back to school.



en.wikipedia.org...


National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsi.ɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1]



By the early 1920s, Adolf Hitler assumed control of the organization and renamed it the National Socialist German Workers' Party to broaden its appeal. The National Socialist Program was adopted in 1920


Yes, we know NOW it was not socialism. Hitler hated anything communist or socialist. Yet Nazism is a kind of socialism. The clue is in its name don't you see that?; National "SOCIALISM". It was a great deception upon the Deutsch; they really did not know what was in Hitler's bag politically, though they did like his talk of "greatness". Does that remind you of anything recent? Hmmm?

I despise all things Nazi, all things Fascist. I despise what the left has tried to socially engineer. Where is that coming from? It is coming from elitism and their fashion right now perhaps. The identity crises in the West is the collateral from this. I was reading an article today about the prevalence of mental health problems with modern British women. They believed the hype. It is an utter disaster. It was not presented to British culture as a choice. It was presented as a dictate by MSM and the Liberal Agenda. Even in British Universities many are banned from speaking if they don't abide by the liberal ethos. The government has had to introduce penalties only in the last couple of days upon them if they don't protect free speech. Is that "liberal" that even our Universities are shutting anyone up who is diverse to the liberal feminism aganda? Seems more "Brown Shirt" to me.


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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:42 PM
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Well considering the word fascism is a rather new term in the world of politics it's used by left ideaologists and liberals to point out what they don't stand for.
Fascism is just basically modern day feudalism, instead of a king and his inbred family it's a bunch of power hungry dudes all scheming to make their direct interests thrive and control everything from population to entertainment. I guess north Korea could be a fascist state really.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Lol. Republican women, church going women, rich women, poor women, all have abortions.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: amfirst1
a reply to: Konduit

Hitler did abolished the central bankers and hated the jews because they ran the banks that brought Germany to their knees financially. He just took it too far with his SJW extremism that led to the extermination of the Jews.


Most people who died in the work camps was from starvation. And millions were not Jews. And some people have claimed the gas chambers were treating the prisoners for lice.

However, regardless, prison labor camps are very fascist. Just like the corporately own prisons we have now in this country with prison labor. What do you think the unintended consequences would be for having prison labor and for-profit prisons in this country?







 
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