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Trump to go for Infrastructure Bill in early 2018.

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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

A wide open border, Mexican Drug War is a bad idea.

Do you have any idea whats going on down there?

July 2017: Mexico's bloody drug war is killing more people than ever
Drug war bloodshed in Mexico has spiked to record levels, with more homicides recorded in June than in any month in at least two decades. Prosecutors opened 2,234 homicide investigations last month, according to government statistics released Friday. That’s an increase of 40% over June of last year and 80% over June of 2015. Rising demand for heroin in the United States and a bloody power struggle inside one of Mexico’s most powerful drug cartels have put the country on track to record more killings in 2017 than in any year since the government began releasing crime data in 1997. The 12,155 homicide cases opened from January to June make 2017 the deadliest first half of a year. Though violence used to be concentrated in a handful of states, it is now rising nationwide, with 27 of Mexico’s 32 states recording an uptick in homicides compared with last year. That includes states that are home to formerly tranquil tourist destinations including Cancun and Cabo San Lucas, which have each been the site of deadly shootouts.
www.latimes.com...




posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

This entire Congress and president are dumb. So while we have dummies running the country, let's get all we can. Wars,walls, modern transportation, and fund our social and education programs.

None of it will happen under democrats, but Trump has brought the Republican deficit Hawks to heel.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:26 AM
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originally posted by: MOMof3

let's get all we can.


Does anyone grasp how every dollar this goes up the more our nation, its infrastructure is sold out to foreign nations??



Lets build/fix a bunch of roads so that foreigners can set up toll booths!!

Everyone should really sit and stare at this thing move for a god 20 minutes before talking about spending a trillion dollars on polishing the brass of our Titanic:
www.usdebtclock.org...



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Well, the good news is the rich will get 62,000 refunded. MAGA.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:37 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Circa 2/3 of us debt is held within the US, not overseas.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Ok that 2/3 goes the multinational banksters whim own the media, and drive us like cattle to war.

Next up NK which dovetails into WW3, then the looming Tech War, the final war of homo sapiens, in our lifetimes, where they become immortal via tech after we paid for it into that national debt, and then with their obsession with overpopulation and environment well you do the math.

Yeah its been a long month over here.


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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

You are exactly right. Dems should ask for three trillion infrastructure. What's another couple trillion. Lets buy us some new trains, bridges, roads, parks, etc. Leave the total bill to the kids. Why should I not be able to enjoy now, and let them pay later. If we are going to run up a debt that we cannot pay, let's RUN THAT BABY UP. And now's the time since REPUBLICANS right now do not care how much they run up the deficit and debt any more than the Dems. Build that wall, go to the moon, more nukes. Sounds expensive.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:33 AM
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Trump will get relected just for pushing the tax bill through.

If he can pull this infrastructure bill off, something everybody harps on, it'll put him in a new lime light.

The Democrat liberals have no message, plan or action to even began to combat said success. Everything is being recorded as democrate obstructionist and I gurantee you people, it'll be blasting the airwaves during elections.

I'm excited as I am alive to see history and change happen as a major political party faces its demise.
edit on 27-12-2017 by Arnie123 because: Hmmm



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:39 AM
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originally posted by: AnkhMorpork

West Palm Beach, Florida (CNN)

President Donald Trump, looking ahead to a critical election year where his record will be on the ballot alongside Republican lawmakers, plans a major push on infrastructure in January, aides said this week.

Before decamping to his Florida estate for the holiday, Trump predicted his effort to repair the country's roads, airports and bridges would garner bipartisan support with ease.

But his plan of winning over Democrats -- critical to passing such a spending package -- remains a long shot, given the President's own divisive politics, the details of his proposal and the pending midterm election.

Despite promising a $1 trillion infrastructure bill during the campaign, Trump's plan is shaping up differently. A White House official said on Tuesday the current proposal -- set to be unveiled in the middle of January -- would propose spending at least $200 billion on infrastructure projects over the next decade, with the hopes of spurring an additional $800 billion in state and local funding.

www.cnn.com...


I think that on top of that proposal the Trump administration should create an American Infrastructure Bank through which to run major P3 Projects, as a collaborative effort between the States and the Federal Government, and even International Financiers ie: Consortiums. Provided that any external investors buy American and hire American and only lease never own the asset, then I don't see why the Trump administration couldn't round up trillions and trillions of dollars, and here I'm taking about new infrastructure, not simply upgrading the existing infrastructure or infrastructure renewal, which is a State-based activity. The Saudis might have every reason to invest 100's of billions into the development of a 21st century American infrastructure development program..

What are your thoughts and ideas?

Do you think Trump will get this done? He seems to think that he's going to win Democratic approval for it (that should be interesting..).


The idea of a federal infrastructure bank is a good one. His supporters and many mainstream Republicans would hate it. As for an infrastructure bill, he should have had one ready to pass along to bipartisan sponsors in January of 2017; it would have set his administration off on the right foot. He didn't, and is struggling to get anything meaningful done. Given the massive tax cuts in the bill that finally did get passed, there will be no funds for infrastructure improvement available without driving the debt up past levels that even Democrats can accept.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: Arnie123


Trump will get relected just for pushing the tax bill through.


He made the fatal mistake of signing the bill before the new year. It will go into effect in time to have a negative impact on the mid-term elections. Please tell me that you actually believe it will benefit anyone but corporations and the wealthy.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

YOU think he made a fatal mistake, 'fraid it isn't so.

Considering your posting history, I take everything you post with a grain of salt.

Fact is, a tax bill got pushed through, pretty historic and if the infrastructure gets pushed as well, adios brother.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:47 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Arnie123


Trump will get relected just for pushing the tax bill through.


He made the fatal mistake of signing the bill before the new year. It will go into effect in time to have a negative impact on the mid-term elections. Please tell me that you actually believe it will benefit anyone but corporations and the wealthy.


America is a capitalist country whose economy is completely dependent on corporations.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:49 AM
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originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: MOMof3

You are exactly right. Dems should ask for three trillion infrastructure. What's another couple trillion. Lets buy us some new trains, bridges, roads, parks, etc. Leave the total bill to the kids. Why should I not be able to enjoy now, and let them pay later. If we are going to run up a debt that we cannot pay, let's RUN THAT BABY UP. And now's the time since REPUBLICANS right now do not care how much they run up the deficit and debt any more than the Dems. Build that wall, go to the moon, more nukes. Sounds expensive.


In 1941 a fighter plane cost 40,000 dollars. Now a fighter plane costs 80 million dollars. Where did the new money come from?



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: odzeandennz


i actually never know who we actually owe this money to. is it in our currency, is it compounding interest, and how do we actually make capital to offset said interests, are we making minimum payments?



originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: odzeandennz

I'm a bit hazy on the specifics, but a huge slice is direct to the owners of the Federal Reserve, and then the rest is to foreign states.

Actually, foreign entities only own about one third of US federal debt. Our debt is broken down into 2 different major categories: publicly held debt (something like 2/3 of the federal debt) and intra-government debt (I forget the actual term, but it's literally govt debt that's owned by other govt agencies like Social Security).

Publicly held debt includes T-bills, govt bonds, and other treasury securities which anyone can buy. If you have a 401K or are invested in low risk mutual funds or money market accounts, you own some form of US debt since they're typically invested in them (especially money market accounts). Companies, institutional investors, foreign owned sovereign wealth funds, and any other investor that wants a safe place to put their money will usually put at least some of their money in US government debt. US T-bills are typically seen as the safest investment in the world.

This is why the US govt will NEVER completely pay off the federal deficit. Rich people all over the world absolutely love to put their money into govt backed debt because, unlike company backed debts/bonds, govts can almost always pay back that debt by using tax money. All over the world you'll find that local govts, State/provincial govts, and federal govts issue debt for various projects and to plug up holes in their budgets. And investors love those investments.

There's a company called PIMCO that holds around $1.6 trillion worth of assets, most of which are various forms of govt debt (not just US federal debt). Now imagine earning a guaranteed interest rate on that money. You think they'd want to give that up just because some "commoners" think our govts should have balanced budgets?
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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Does anyone grasp how every dollar this goes up the more our nation, its infrastructure is sold out to foreign nations??


Since this is the Mud Pit I can't resist: what difference, then, if the presidency is sold out to foreign nations?



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 08:05 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss


Does anyone grasp how every dollar this goes up the more our nation, its infrastructure is sold out to foreign nations??


Since this is the Mud Pit I can't resist: what difference, then, if the presidency is sold out to foreign nations?


It matters not if the president is a foreigner. It matters what the president can do for the American people. Voters vote on who can improve their lives, not on who is or isn't a foreigner.


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posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 08:07 AM
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a reply to: fatsoD


It matters not if the president is a foreigner. It matter what the president can do for the American people.


That's what Trump always said about Obama!



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: fatsoD

Another stupid mind trick. Repeating a famous democrat isn't going to help. No one voted for Trump for the greater good. He was voted to destroy the first black president and punish blue states. The Destroyer.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

When you can't beat em, join em. Our kids are never going to pay off the debt as is now. Trump should have fulfilled his promises to working people before giving rich people more. But the kids might get some decent roads out of it.



posted on Dec, 27 2017 @ 10:51 AM
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Isn't CNN very fake Clinton News Network news, though?




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