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Gifted a $1 trillion tax windfall from Congress, US companies only pledge $2 billion for workers

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posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

It hasn't even been a week yet S.G. We all know your standard operating procedures.




posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: projectvxn

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How are you feeling about these tax cuts? $billions going to the wealthiest? To the corporations? Instead of going back into the country, back into much needed wasted infrastructure?

We'll just continue hoping it'll all trickle down right project?

It's going to trickle down any moment now, right?


You do realize Obama proposed cutting taxes on those same Evil Corporations , right? I assume you were in the Vanguard of criticism of him then, right?

Wouldn't want you to be inconsistent, now would you?



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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If the companies make money, your stocks will increase . Go retirement funds, but if older people don’t need the government, then their vote might change



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 03:55 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Whaaaaa! Whaaaa!

I want other peoples money without earning it!!

Whaaa! Whaaa!

Grow up.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 03:58 PM
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I think it is an attempt to keep the little people happy for around 7 years and when the reality hits it will be up to the democrats to attempt to sort out the even bigger deficit.
Meanwhile some people are getting even more disproportionately richer then us little folk.
But enjoy your scraps they throw to you all.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: six67seven

Well, if someone rigs the system in their favor and that rigging takes money out of my and your pockets then I'd say money is being taken away from us and being given to them.

Why are we rewarding corruption? You know that it is the mega rich who pay our politicians to lie to us, right?
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posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Meanwhile, the benefactors of the share dividends will get to have another round of bank showered down on them when the 998bil in unpaid tax money is distributed to shareholders.

"Trickle down" doesn't mean that business directly convert cash to cap-ex. It means that the cash flow into and out of their balance sheet, and can be distributed via wages and benefits, cap-ex, or shareholder distributions.

Something to consider: sitting on more than FDIC will ensure an account for is something that most businesses will strive to avoid. COmpanies don't want to sit on cash. Cash rots. They want to put the cash to work for them. With the goal to be earning increasing revenues and driving up stock valuation.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: Southern Guardian

Ahh, the 'spin' continues.

Let's see, the sum total of 'savings' goes to small and medium sized corporations. The bulk of which creates opportunities, lowered debt, increased upgrades, even survival for some and yes....jobs.

The bonuses to employees was an unexpected windfall for those that received them.

So the left crowd goes out of it's way to make less of it rather than acknowledge that fact that these evil corporations weren't required or obligated to do so.

Desperate times for the Democrat party and it's supporters based on the posts....



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

It's called grasping at straws. Democrats are in disarray and in deep doo-doo that is getting deeper, as president Trump racks up accomplishments.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Agree, Trump is getting things done even if the Corporate owned weaponized media refuses to mention any of them.

Soon we will see pee in an hotel room in Russia again, this is what the Corporate owned weaponized media think the US citizens need to hear.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

But as some have said in this thread so far "give it time", that goes both ways. In a year or two this could be the greatest thing ever, but it could also be the worst, maybe even somewhere in-between. I see people heralding this as the best tax plan ever, others saying it's the downfall of America. Why don't we wait more than a week before calling it one way or the other? Going by history I'm inclined to believe it will be bad for the average American in the long run but I have no choice but to sit back and wait to see where it goes. I would advise others to do the same instead of counting their chickens before they hatch.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:15 PM
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America isn't a socialist country, nobody has a rightful claim on the earnings of an individual or a corporation except for the individual or corporation who earned it.


The 14th amendment expressly forbids it.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Now if only we could get some legislation that forbids corporations from rigging our government and economy in their favor and buying the voting habits of our politicians. Who do you think lobbied for Citizen's United? The same ones some are trying to defend here.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron


Star because that is funny.

I would post some fun art from 20th century leftists communists or socialists, but around 100 million of them were murdered or starved to death, so fun art is hard to come by.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:21 PM
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Now if only we could get some legislation that forbids corporations from rigging our government and economy in their favor and buying the voting habits of our politicians.


But it's ok for politicians to pay British spies millions for dossiers amiright ?



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: Kharron




The law of diminishing returns states that in all productive processes, adding more of one factor of production, while holding all others constant ("ceteris paribus"),will at some point yield lower incremental per-unit returns.[1] The law of diminishing returns does not imply that adding more of a factor will decrease the total production, a condition known as negative returns, though in fact this is common.


Law of diminishing returns.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: schuyler
b) YOU pay corporate taxes, you idiot,


This bears repeating. I've been around long enough to know that without a doubt that the top 1%, big business,megacorps, whatever you want to call them always get their cut. ALWAYS. You think you are going to take a dig out of their margins? They'll just raise the cost of goods and services to compensate. EVERY TIME. Once you can accept this fact of life you won't mind a tax cut here and there, I promise.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

That was kind of my point. Its way to early to judge the future. We can see that the big corps are using some...even if small...of the funds to directly benefit their employees. Also this was not just a corporate tax cut...there were cuts in all brackets as far as I could tell.

Again...this 1 trillion is split into 100 billion over 10 years. We won't have much of an idea for a few years as to how much of that will benefit employees/prospective employees (more jobs). Maybe the first few years they invest the bulk of that into more dividends for share holders and a stronger position on the market so they are in a position to spend on things like raises and more positions. I don't trust corporations but I also try not to make assumptions if I can help it.

From what I can see this has already shown to give more back to consumers than any tax bill I can remember in my 31 years on this planet. Maybe I'm wrong and if so you're welcome to show me...I like to learn new things.



posted on Dec, 26 2017 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: six67seven

Well, if someone rigs the system in their favor and that rigging takes money out of my and your pockets then I'd say money is being taken away from us and being given to them.

Why are we rewarding corruption? You know that it is the mega rich who pay our politicians to lie to us, right?


What you’re talking about is completely separate from this tax bill.

Politicians lying and taking money...of course...that existed well before this tax plan and will continue long after.

The two are completely separate.
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