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originally posted by: marrowmonkey
a reply to: tjocksteffe
The Nimitz 2004 incident is interesting, but very little was leaked about it, and long before December this year. Assuming there was a full investigation, a disclosure would mean, at the very least, publishing the resulting report. They need to rule out that there was any other classified military operations in the area for example. Part of what the pilots describe sounds an awful lot like SLBMs.
I don't have anything against Elizondo, but I don't find people making statements convincing, I would like facts confirmed by several Independent sources preferably. Physical objects that can be examined by several independent researchers. And so on. I don't think these guys have anything. They have shown nothing new so far, only asked for people to give them money.
They have shown nothing new so far, only asked for people to give them money.
originally posted by: tjocksteffeDo you think David Fravor and Luiz Elizondo are lying on national TV straight to the face of their own people? About an important subject like this?
I dont.
I think they are higly credible professionals who know what they are talking about.
originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Disclosure by leading officials all over the world has already happened, some disclosures happened decades ago but still no physical evidence. Have we got to a place were we wont believe it until it comes from Yankie lips. Yeah, In Trump we Trust.
originally posted by: kelbtalfenek
a reply to: Aazadan
when/if there is full "disclosure" I'm afraid it will be of the "we don't really know what they are either" variety.
originally posted by: odzeandennz
a new year, a new 'imminent disclosure' timetable.
gotta love tinfoilies.
i suppose he's going to put out a few books and be a guest speaker (small fee) at yearly conventions presenting ambiguous 'proof'.. maybe a guest appearance on ancient aliens! .
originally posted by: GodKilla
So let’s say full disclosure happens. Aliens and their technology is real. Government comes clean. Now, here is the big questions. Why are they here? What do they want? What is sooooo bad that we are being kept in the dark? It MUST be something really terrible and embarrassing like:
-Our government allows the aliens to harvest us in exchange for ??
-There are aliens living among us in disguise (at top levels of media and government, etc)
-The Power sources that are in our governments possession, if released would cause economic collapse
Or something really crazy, like WE are the aliens. The original aliens on this planet and they keep coming here to babysit us or something. What do you think?
A lot of people have pointed at the sudden jump in velocity of the Nimitz UFO as evidence of super high g-forces. There's two problems with this. Firstly we can't really tell from this video if it's the camera moving or the object moving. But more significantly, a lot of people have missed that fact that the sudden change in apparent velocity is actually due to a change in the zoom setting of the camera. When we correct for this by shrinking the 2x video back down to 1x then the "jerk" in velocity vanishes, and the movement is much smoother and slower, with no huge g-forces required.
originally posted by: JackHill
originally posted by: GodKilla
So let’s say full disclosure happens. Aliens and their technology is real. Government comes clean. Now, here is the big questions. Why are they here? What do they want? What is sooooo bad that we are being kept in the dark? It MUST be something really terrible and embarrassing like:
-Our government allows the aliens to harvest us in exchange for ??
-There are aliens living among us in disguise (at top levels of media and government, etc)
-The Power sources that are in our governments possession, if released would cause economic collapse
Or something really crazy, like WE are the aliens. The original aliens on this planet and they keep coming here to babysit us or something. What do you think?
Why are they here? They abduct human beings through several generation as a part of a hibridization program. This is done covertly and they "erase" abductees memories.
What do they want? The main objective is the mass production of human looking hybrid beings, with infiltration purposes. The final goal of this covert infiltration is a matter of speculation. But one thing is for sure: these beings have invested a lot of time and resources into this, they will not just "go away". As it were not disturbing enough, these beings can control us mentally, it implies to makes us do or think whatever they want and later just erase the memories of it.
What is sooooo bad that we are being kept in the dark? The US government must be fully aware of these abductions, so there are some possibilites here:
- They just "observe" and do nothing about it.
- They tried to fight it or are trying to fight it.
- They're in bed with the invasors.
In any case, secrecy is understandable.
originally posted by: tommyjo
Quite amusing in that they are using an image of a mylar party balloon during the US Navy incident presentation.
See 15:45
The image is from 2005 and is from the UK.
www.rense.com...
Metabunk Link
originally posted by: charlyv
It is Unidentified Aerial Phenomena now, and I like that because it carries a lot less baggage.
Even so, no mention of Extraterrestrials or vehicles, as those definitions require physical proof.
What we have are anomalous fast moving, appearing, disappearing, hovering, illuminated atmospheric phenomena that appear intelligently controlled.
Possibilities:
-Military dark projects
-GeoPhysical energies
-Us in the future, visiting.
-Dimensional entities
-Spiritual beings
-Probes from and extraterrestrial source
-Aliens in vehicles from and extraterrestrial source.
One or more of the above will probably be correct, but disclosure is still as elusive as ever.