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Do Atheist Still Believe in God?

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posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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originally posted by: StallionDuck
I believe this would fall more under Science than Religion based on how the information came to light.

A study has found that Atheist might not be unbelievers after all...

A study in Finland explored how religious and non-religious people responded to the idea of God.

The researchers used electrodes to measure how much sweat people produced while reading statements like "I dare God to make my parents drown" or "I dare God to make me die of cancer".

Unexpectedly, when nonbelievers read the statements, they produced as much sweat as believers - suggesting they were equally anxious about the consequences of their dares.



They should have done a 2nd trial where people also said: "I dare the Molecule Man from Marvel comics to make my parents drown" or "I dare Loki to make me die of cancer".

those tests probably would have shown similar results showing that it doesn't have anything to do with belief or levels of probabilities that these characters actually exist but superstition and the fact that saying uncomfortable things makes us tense up.

There may be no atheists in foxholes but the beliefs of someone in WAR under FIRE do not count as rational beliefs or beliefs that one should consider adopting as a worldview. If things got bad enough I would pray to Thor if I was in a foxhole. This has no bearing on my general beliefs outside of the foxhole.
edit on 24-12-2017 by joelr because: (no reason given)




posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 10:56 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:07 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.


Just kidding


I mean, how many times can you repeat "Lack of Belief in a God/Deity"?

It is not complicated.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:12 PM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

If Jesus is completely fictional then what would be the point of the lies that leads to Jesus being from Bethlehem rather than from Nazareth.

Why not just make him from Bethlehem in the first place.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:17 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.


Just kidding


I mean, how many times can you repeat "Lack of Belief in a God/Deity"?

It is not complicated.


Sure it is.
There's massive implications for either result.

It's only uncomplicated if you assume you are correct.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.


Just kidding


I mean, how many times can you repeat "Lack of Belief in a God/Deity"?

It is not complicated.


Sure it is.
There's massive implications for either result.

It's only uncomplicated if you assume you are correct.


NO

Lack of Belief is NOT complicated.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Woodcarver

If Jesus is completely fictional then what would be the point of the lies that leads to Jesus being from Bethlehem rather than from Nazareth.

Why not just make him from Bethlehem in the first place.





Dr. Reza Aslan's new book ZEALOT : The Life & Times of Jesus of Nazareth [ISBN 978-0-8129-8148-3 Random House, LLC NY] came out a couple of years ago and brings to a head many of the tantalising clues found in the 'canonical' (council-approved) Greek Gospels that the so-called 'Prince of Peace' wasn't always so peaceful after all... His thesis, briefly stated, is that "Jesus" as a historical personage bears little resemblance to the Christ of Faith . . . www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:29 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.


Just kidding


I mean, how many times can you repeat "Lack of Belief in a God/Deity"?

It is not complicated.


Sure it is.
There's massive implications for either result.

It's only uncomplicated if you assume you are correct.


NO

Lack of Belief is NOT complicated.



Lack of belief requires real answers.

Evolution is far more complicated than the garden of eden.



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:49 PM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Woodcarver

If Jesus is completely fictional then what would be the point of the lies that leads to Jesus being from Bethlehem rather than from Nazareth.

Why not just make him from Bethlehem in the first place.
Because Bethlehem is where david was born and that particular point is needed in order to fulfill the prophesy.
edit on 24-12-2017 by Woodcarver because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 24 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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a reply to: Annee




I do not use the word God. It is the word used in this discussion by challengers of those who "Lack belief" - - - in what they themselves believe.


But it is a word and it exists because at some point linguistics
heed it to referrence something that didn't exist.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:00 AM
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originally posted by: Annee


I do not use the word God. It is the word used in this discussion by challengers of those who "Lack belief" - - - in what they themselves believe.


Good heavens, Annee.

Read your own words. You refer to God all the time in your writing.

Ok, so let's say you only use the word God, in response to other people using this word first.

Still, you're responding to a concept of which you must have some idea in your mind what those others mean when they use this word.

How can you have a conversation using words that have no meaning to you?

Are you just practicing forming English sentences with possible words without even knowing if those words are nouns, adjectives, pronouns, verbs etc...

In order to deny the existence of God, you must understand the term.

In order to claim lack of belief in God, you must be sure God doesn't mean "my-self".

Surely, you believe in your own existence?

How do you know that God isn't just a term being used to mean "me, myself, and I" ?



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:01 AM
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a reply to: Woodcarver

So why not just make it up entirely and get it right in the first place?



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Annee


I do not use the word God. It is the word used in this discussion by challengers of those who "Lack belief" - - - in what they themselves believe.


Good heavens, Annee.

Read your own words. You refer to God all the time in your writing.



In discussion with those who use it and believe.

I actually do not use it in my every day life.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: Annee




I do not use the word God. It is the word used in this discussion by challengers of those who "Lack belief" - - - in what they themselves believe.


But it is a word and it exists because at some point linguistics
heed it to referrence something that didn't exist.


Its part of this discussion.

A discussion I joined. Not one I introduced.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:19 AM
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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar

originally posted by: Annee
Again - - - beyond Lack of Belief in a God/Deity - - - no one atheist represents the philosophy of all. They are individuals.


I agree with you 100%.

What made you think I thought otherwise.


Too many threads like this since I signed on in 2007.



Well I've got 4months until I reach your seniority.
I'll probably stop reading posts then too.


Just kidding


I mean, how many times can you repeat "Lack of Belief in a God/Deity"?

It is not complicated.


Sure it is.
There's massive implications for either result.

It's only uncomplicated if you assume you are correct.


NO

Lack of Belief is NOT complicated.



Lack of belief requires real answers.

Evolution is far more complicated than the garden of eden.


Why would lack of belief require an answer?

A response to those asking the question is different.



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

In discussion with those who use it and believe.

I actually do not use it in my every day life.


Yeah, but since you admit you don't know what God is, how can you say anything about Him?



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 02:03 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
It takes more faith for an atheist to believe there is no God than to believe in God. Atheism isn't really about believing or not believing though, it's about arrogance, vanity, pompous self importance, a purposeful lack of humility and rebellion against anything except the atheist's own desires. Once a person grows beyond the need for all those childish things and casts them away, (if they can ever get over themselves), can they discover that God exists and is waiting for them to begin seeing truth.


Folks used to call him the god of love, peace, compassion, empathy, understanding.
Perhaps his teachings have changed recently?



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 02:59 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: Annee

In discussion with those who use it and believe.

I actually do not use it in my every day life.


Yeah, but since you admit you don't know what God is, how can you say anything about Him?



Admit? You wanna show me that?

You want the link to the site of over 3000 gods/goddesses?

I posted the definition of God.

Oh, and I was raised Christian.




edit on 25-12-2017 by Annee because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 04:04 AM
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a reply to: StallionDuck

I would say it has more to do with western christian brainwashing than belief.

Growing up in the west you hear about how god is going to get you if you misbehave all your life, and it is very hard to deprogram that stuff.
So it is possible to not believe yet still be anxious .



posted on Dec, 25 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
It takes more faith for an atheist to believe there is no God than to believe in God. Atheism isn't really about believing or not believing though, it's about arrogance, vanity, pompous self importance, a purposeful lack of humility and rebellion against anything except the atheist's own desires. Once a person grows beyond the need for all those childish things and casts them away, (if they can ever get over themselves), can they discover that God exists and is waiting for them to begin seeing truth.


Sorry but are you sure you’re not projecting? I sense some arrogance, pompous self-importance and lack of humility in your own post.







 
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